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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#77176: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:08:00 AM

They called it Civil War while not being anything like Civil War,it's a genius move really.

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#77177: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:11:35 AM

Funny-looking or not, considering how bad most people thought Steppenwolf looked in Justice League, Thanos looks very well-realized into the environment. Feels like someone's that's actually there.

And I think he looks good, honestly.

edited 30th Nov '17 7:16:48 AM by edvedd

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#77178: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:28:11 AM

What if they did something closer to the Ultimate universe's Clone Daga.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77179: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:28:54 AM

Civil war is a great concept which lacked in execution. The Clone Saga is a giant clusterfuck which only existed to correct past mistakes.

Btw, is there any event or major story which involves Time travelling through past events in order to defeat a villain? Because if there is one, I would bet that this will be the title of Avengers 4.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#77180: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:01:06 AM

I do think that it's relatively plausible that a future Spider-Man movie will have Peter interacting with alternate versions of himself/other Spider-People. I base this on the fact that this has been a pretty consistent element of recent comics, games, and animated adaptations.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77181: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:01:50 AM

[up][up][up][up]It helps that Infinity War was not the victim of Christmas Rushed reshoots, meaning they have time to make the CGI look good.

edited 30th Nov '17 8:02:04 AM by comicwriter

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Darling.
#77182: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:06:38 AM

The merits of the design are debatable, certainly, but I assume that he looks the way he does partially because they want to put more of Josh Brolin into Thanos. The relative simplicity of the design allows more of his performance to be on display, and it works on a character level because it represents Thanos's supreme confidence in his new strength, an interpretation I think even the creators mentioned somewhere. Maybe not, but I've definitely heard it put forth.

edited 30th Nov '17 8:11:14 AM by edvedd

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#77183: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:33:34 AM

Why is anyone entertaining the thought of Spider-Man dying?

The trailer shows Spider-man being squashed by Thanos, Iron-Man gets knocked out by Thanos in the same area, a shot of Tony Stark sans suit looking morose in the same area as he's possibly holding someone's limp hand and the leaked trailer has Spider-man in Tony's arms repeating over and over again "that he's sorry" in the same orange tinted area.

edited 30th Nov '17 8:34:03 AM by MadSkillz

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77184: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:34:36 AM

We had the same thing happen with Civil War though, when everyone kept insisting War Machine was totally gonna die because the trailers showed him falling from the sky and then Tony cradling his body while Rhodey's eyes were closed.

Like others have said, it's a problem because any scene involving Peter's death immediately becomes Like You Would Really Do It since the audience knows he's going to be resurrected by the end, which immediately removes the stakes since we know no matter what, anyone who dies is probably gonna get revived by the Stones.

edited 30th Nov '17 8:36:36 AM by comicwriter

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#77185: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:35:58 AM

@comic True although he did get a permanent injury so it really was severe but not as severe as we thought.

[up] My line of thinking is that they're going to be explicit that they're going to try resurrection at the end of Avengers 3 and the fight then becomes to grab the Time Stone and bring them all back to defeat Thanos.

edited 30th Nov '17 8:37:30 AM by MadSkillz

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#77186: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:37:38 AM

Too bad comic Rhodes wasn't so lucky.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77187: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:01:17 AM

Oh, I think they might do alternate versions of Spider-man down the line....this part of the concept is actually pretty nifty. But I think it depends on how Sony will do with their strange "not really in the MCU" Spiderman movies...I mean, if they do a Spider-gwen verse at one point, and it is actually good, than it might be worth to do a dimension hopping story. But it is way, waaaay too early to do anything like this.

So...any theory what the four armed aliens are?

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#77188: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:03:41 AM

Clearly the four armed aliens are part of Thanos's Kree/Skrull army

edited 30th Nov '17 9:04:55 AM by Ultimatum

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#77189: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:04:43 AM

[up][up] These guys.

edited 30th Nov '17 9:04:54 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77190: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:04:48 AM

[up][up] Since when have Kree four arms?

[up] looks right...

edited 30th Nov '17 9:06:07 AM by Swanpride

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#77191: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:05:25 AM

They are shapeshifters

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#77192: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:06:19 AM

That's the Skrulls, Ultimatum.

Oh God! Natural light!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#77193: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:07:18 AM

I stand corrected then

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#77194: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:28:09 AM

Thanos was so disappointed by the Chitauri's failure in the first movie that he fired them and got a new disposable alien army. And by fired I mean he set them all on fire.

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#77195: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:33:44 AM

Thanos being purple is something I'm glad they left out of the film,would have been harder to take him seriouslyevil grin

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#77196: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:48:31 AM

I'm not sure if being pink is really all that much better.

I keep thinking he looks like a humanoid version of Patrick Star.

edited 30th Nov '17 9:48:54 AM by MadSkillz

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77197: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:55:53 AM

Are we sure he's not actually purple and it's just the tint/lighting in that scene making him look pink?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#77198: Nov 30th 2017 at 10:01:34 AM

Killing off Spidey while he's just starting his character arc in his own movie series and is (arguably) set to be a headliner in the post Infinity War era isn't a very smart idea, so I can't really get behind.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#77199: Nov 30th 2017 at 10:32:02 AM

Why? I mean he won't be killed off for good.

[up] The next Spider-Man movie won't come out until after Avengers 4. Reading up on it, the next Spider-man sequel could take place before IW.

edited 30th Nov '17 10:32:20 AM by MadSkillz

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