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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#77051: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:46:50 AM

I'd guess it's Vision, Peter, Tony, Hulk Strange and Wong at the New York Battle.

T'challa, Steve, Bucky, Natasha, Sam, Wanda, Okoye and Rhodey(!?) at the Wakanda battle.

Clint and Scott are weirdly absent.

Looks like all the heavy hitters are in New York, Wanda's gonna have to carry the team in Wakanda.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77052: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:50:42 AM

[up]Hulk is in Wakanda. The fight in New York is likely earlier in the movie.

As for Scott, the synopsis for Ant-Man and The Wasp says he is under house arrest at the start of the film.

edited 29th Nov '17 7:53:17 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#77053: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:54:41 AM

Probably Thanos in New York while he sends his minions to harvest whatever he needs in Wakanda.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77055: Nov 29th 2017 at 7:58:20 AM

The time stone is now in New York...because Doctor Strange is in New York and he apparently now wears this thing permanently.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#77056: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:01:06 AM

I figure that's why they were there anyway.

Also, I don't think he was wearing it in Ragnarok, was he?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#77057: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:08:32 AM

> The only part of the trailer I didn't like was Thanos choke-slamming Spider-Man, and that's just because I don't want to see Spider-Man get choke-slammed by Thanos.

OK,now i'll have to watch the trailer!

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#77058: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:08:45 AM

@Whowho: Hulk was in the final Wakanda shot, though.

I think at least part of the Wakanda battle takes place after New York, personally.

[nja]

edited 29th Nov '17 8:09:19 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#77059: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:12:13 AM

Watched the trailer now

poor Peter

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77060: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:17:08 AM

[up][up][up][up]Poor Thor has been looking for the Stones and didn't notice the one literally right in front of him.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#77061: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:33:48 AM

Hey, Thor can’t see into Loki’s pocket dimension, that’s not his fault.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#77062: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:37:38 AM

In fairness, I think the Eye of Agamotto is meant to hide and channel the stone.

So far, it seems like its been the Infinity Stone that's most manageable.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77063: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:40:20 AM

They cheat at least twice in the trailer....when Thanos adds a stone to his glove directly after his encounter with Vision (the stone has the wrong colour, it is not Visions...I bet Thanos gets this one at the very start of the movie, and I think we all recognize the one he already has at this point) and then again when they make it sound as if they need to evacuate New York, but I think the big battle actually happens in Wakanda (which would be better anyway, it would be hard to explain away the lack of Defenders otherwise).

[up] I kind of have the theory that they added the whole scene with Doctor Strange to Thor Ragnarok partly so that Loki can recognize the Stone and reveal its location to Thanos.

edited 29th Nov '17 8:41:49 AM by Swanpride

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#77064: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:42:58 AM

So ist just wonder wether Loki is still loyal to Thanos and thus faked his Heel–Face Turn yet again or if it is simply out of fear....or if he tries to trick Thanos even?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77065: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:45:50 AM

[up] Either he tricks him or he buys free passage for himself and the Asgardians. Remember, Loki doesn't think particularly highly of humans.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#77066: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:46:52 AM

I get the feeling that faking his own death was at least partially to avoid Thanos looking for him as it was about shipping dear ol' dad off to a nursing home

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#77067: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:49:57 AM

The Asgardians are as dead as Wanda's Romani identity.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77068: Nov 29th 2017 at 8:59:07 AM

It's impressive...the trailer has already more than 467.000 views...and that is only the English version, the Spanish, the Italian and German one dropped simultaneously.

Also, the fandom works fast...a few hours and there are already countless reaction videos and compilations of reaction videos.

edited 29th Nov '17 9:05:29 AM by Swanpride

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#77069: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:19:39 AM

Loki better be saving the Asgardians. I’m gonna be real mad if he heel-face-revolving-door’s AGAIN. It’d be too predictable and annoying.

Although, his first evil plan did involve genocide of an entire planet, but still.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#77070: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:31:49 AM

[up]I think he is. A major theme of Ragnarok was that he wants to be viewed as a savior figure ( hence the huge statue of himself and staging a play about how his heroic sacrifice in The Dark World helped save the universe) so giving up the Tesseract in exchange for the Asgardians would be a continuation of that.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77071: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:47:40 AM

Correction...just refreshed and the counter is at 4.481.532 views by now.

That's just...wow!

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#77072: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:53:13 AM

[up][up] For argument's sake, it wouldn't be the first time Loki was written very differently in the Avengers series than he was in the Thor movies.

edited 29th Nov '17 9:53:36 AM by KnownUnknown

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#77073: Nov 29th 2017 at 9:58:17 AM

Don’t remind me. I just rewatched Thor, Avengers, and Thor: The Dark World. Loki’s Avengers characterization does NOT make any sense. Dammit Whedon. But I trust the Russo bros; they gave us the best Natasha.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#77075: Nov 29th 2017 at 10:05:57 AM

Can we talk about Bucky wearing a sympathy beard to match steve?


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