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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Hmm...maybe post-Avengers 4 movies will have superheroes as a more organized force, with sci-fic technology and interactions with aliens and other fantastical forces being the norm?
Oh God! Natural light!Yeah from what I remember, they've said "Phase 4" will probably mark the time where they are allowed to experiment with subject matter, to the point it can hardly be organized enough to be called a proper phase anymore. Phases 1-3 mark the very very very long introductory arc and what comes after is the sandbox.
By the way who is the dark-haired lady between Maria Hill and Valkyrie and above T'Challa in the second batch of images? Also now that I'm getting a clear shot of it I'm loving Black W Idow's tactical gear outfit. It's an interesting departure from her sexy catsuit outfit in the name of practicality that keeps the same overall aesthetic.
edited 27th Nov '17 12:30:53 PM by AlleyOop
I have the feeling that it will be a while before we see another Avengers movie after the fourth one, no matter with which line-up. If for no other reason that that it will pretty much impossible to top the attention that movie will receive and it might be better to not even try, but instead do a number of smaller team-up movies, exploring the world even further.
Also, the perfect ending for this would be if Tony gets his wish - putting the Earth into a state in which the Avengers are no longer needed as protection - but pays the ultimate price for it. This would mean that the world doesn't need the Avengers for a while, exactly long enough that the cry "Avengers reassemble!!!" comes at a time at which the notion is a giant draw for the audience.
meanwhile they could do secret invasion as ongoing storyline.....
Marvel has twenty films slated after Avengers 4
Which, lines up which previous statements for the film slate stretching to 2027. If we're sticking to three films a year, and three years per phase, that's two more phases.
Regarding contracted ending; Bob Jr's contract ended in Age of Ultron's he's simply been working film to film, so I expect other members of the founding six to follow the same suit. I absolute expect Steve to die, and I very much suspect Tony is going to die to. But I expect Thor and Hulk to carry on as team up heroes who show up for cross overs (Like Hulk and Tony currently do)
I'm really excited for Phase 4, because it seems like it's going to be an era where the big players are gonna be people who were introduced after Phase 1. It's gonna feel radically different when event films like Winter Soilder take place in the Black Panther or Captain Marvel franchise.
Do I think that the MCU will get to 2027? Yeah. The Cradle of Life rule says that if you have a popular IP you can bank on two more films. (The IP ensures you get a big box office hall on the opening weekend of your first film, and that in turn ensures your sequal get's greenlit.) And sure 20 films is a lot, but that's only two films per franchise if they carry on the phase structure.
I think the MCU will carry on either until the industry makes these massive actor commitments and near constant productions infeasible, or until a single phase get's a generally poor reception; ensuring that the following phase, regardless of quality, looses out on viewership.
And if the brand looses favour, then that still means that some of the sub franchisees might stay bankable, so the MCU might just abandon the phases and continue with what ever is popular.
Personally I still need to see The Masters of Evil, Secret Invasion, and Dark Reign taking place. (Not that I'm sure I want to see Secret Invasion. I pretty much just want Thunderbolt Ross to be revealed to be a Skrull)
It just would be a shame to end it after all the work put into it. And honestly, what do we have to loose? If whatever comes after Avengers 4 doesn't work, we can just appreciate what we had to this point and nothing which comes after will be able to destroy it. If it does work, though, those movies can take advantage of the giant world they are set in, and of various underlying themes already baked into the MCU.
Regarding the actors: I think it is time to retire RDJ. I enjoy him in his role immensely, but RDJ is not getting younger and it will become more and more unbelievable that a 50 year old guy (he isn't THAT old yet, but he will be if he is still around in phase 4) is flying around in a suit. Plus, the biggest mistake ANY franchise can make is to not letting go of stuff in time.
I also hope that Chris Evans will stay on. He has already indicated that he is interested and I have the feeling that it would be worth to see more of him. The only thing which speaks against it is that it would actually be cheaper for Marvel to just replace him with Sebastian Stan, who still has multiple movie on his contract (apparently he signed a nine picture deal AFTER The first Avenger, which means that, assuming he is in both upcoming Avenger movies, there will still be five movies on his contract after it). But should they do a Secret Invasion storyline, I actually want to see Cap being replaced by a Scrull and then coming back, because him having to deal with what the Scrull did in his name would be a really compelling storyline for him.
Plus, I can't get enough of Steve and Bucky and Falcon interacting with each other.
Scarlet Johansson has apparently a movie to movie contract by now, though she is very tight-lipped about it. I guess they will use her when they feel it makes sense. Her character can simply go underground for a while.
And Clint - I really like Hawkeye. But part of me feels that it might be time to introduce Kate Bishop to replace him.
Btw, the article about Killian is now up. In case anyone is interested:
https://swanpride3.wordpress.com/2017/11/28/marvel-musings-aldrich-killian/
I still contend the Civil War version of the BP costume looked much better. It's the only thing I don't like out of everything I've seen about the Black Panther promos, which is probably actually a good thing.
Hawkeye's been generally screwed out of any possibility for a Matt Fraction-esque movie but finding some way to introduce Kate Bishop and allow him to have some of his Fraction characteristics without fridging his family by having him serve as a distant mentor figure for young and upcoming Kate.

edited 27th Nov '17 11:58:22 AM by wisewillow