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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76901: Nov 27th 2017 at 6:31:34 AM

It's so they can have one woman and one black guy on each cover, except for the last one, because they ran out of black guys.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76902: Nov 27th 2017 at 6:39:50 AM

[up] Maybe, but you can still do this with pairings which make a little bit more sense. Ie why isn't Rhodey and Pepper paired with Ironman and Falcon and Black Widow with Cap?

edited 27th Nov '17 6:40:41 AM by Swanpride

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76904: Nov 27th 2017 at 6:47:26 AM

Or 3 hours.

Or 3 weeks.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76906: Nov 27th 2017 at 6:54:49 AM

Honestly, who needs an infinity war trailer when one can instead get freaked out by the first 17 minutes of the Agents of Shield two hour season finale and distract oneself with a new episode of Runaways tomorrow? We will get the trailer early enough. And then we will get even more trailer. And then we will start to complain that we don't want to know that much....

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76907: Nov 27th 2017 at 7:03:01 AM

Honestly, who needs an infinity war trailer when one can instead get freaked out by the first 17 minutes of the Agents of Shield two hour season finale

Quite a lot of people.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76908: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:00:23 AM

From the article:

"After Avengers 4, an ambitious multi-franchise crossover movie slated for release in 2019, at least some of the original characters who sit at the center of the billion-dollar Avengers team will be hanging up their capes and shields. That’s partially because the Marvel contracts with the actors who play them - Chris Evans (Captain America), Mark Ruffalo (Hulk), Robert Downey Jr (Iron Man), Scarlett Johansson (Black Widow), Chris Hemsworth (Thor), and Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye) - are coming to an end," writes VF's Joanna Robinson.

That's summed up in a quote by Hemsworth, who was dismayed that VF wasn't able to take a photo of the actors playing Words with Friends together while on set during the interview.

"I thought, 'Could somebody take a photo of this?' We’re all aware that this is going to be the last time we get to hang out like this," said Hemsworth.

And yet the actors who have contributed so much to Marvel’s past successes have little doubt about the studio’s future. "I feel a lot of joy for the next generation,” Johansson said. “It’s a bittersweet feeling, but a positive one."

Sounds like this'll be the end of an era indeed.

edited 27th Nov '17 9:59:15 AM by comicwriter

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#76909: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:43:23 AM

We’re losing ALL of them????? O.O

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#76910: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:47:36 AM

Thanos kills them all in one stroke with his omega beams

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#76911: Nov 27th 2017 at 9:56:38 AM

I’m okay with a death or two, but not all six. What’ll happen to the rest of Asgard?! I can handle Cap or Tony dying, but not Thor!

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76912: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:00:29 AM

Thor is probably not dying. I actually thinnk he's gonna be retired to rule what is left of the Asgardians.

Hawkeye they already have an out because you can just have him go back with his wife and kids as well.

The only one I'm certain is gonna die is Tony.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76913: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:00:41 AM

Thor isn't a difficult character to write out of the action without killing him, especially now that he's responsible for the remnants of Asgard. IIRC, Hemsworth hasn't shown the same desire to do other things as some of the others, either.

They could do a thing where he retires to rule Asgard-On-Earth (Earthsgard?), but in really big moments they could cast Hemsworth in a small role where someone comes to him for help.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#76914: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:02:17 AM

Jesus fucking shit, Avengers 4 is going to be a bloodbath.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#76915: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:02:31 AM

In the next movie, Thanos will unleash his secret technique: the Satsui no Hado!

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#76916: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:07:39 AM

I just want them all to get to find (retirement, not dying!) peace, dangit. Steve especially. Poor thing, he’s really gotten thrown through the ringer.

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#76917: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:16:16 AM

I don't believe any of them will be dying until I see it.

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#76918: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:28:22 AM

I'm imagining a scene where the original six Avengers are facing off against literally impossible odds to let a bunch of other characters escape to fight another day. The scene is almost entirely in slow-motion and made of glory shots of the six smashing mooks and getting beaten down by the major villains. They are all struck fatal blows at various points in the fight. They fall, one by one, until it's down to Captain America as the last man standing. He squares off, wielding a broken shard of his once mighty shield, and he fights off enemies until he's hit by a giant blast and is engulfed by the flames.

The next scene is the remaining heroes, families, and friends of the 6 crying and screaming in hysteria over their deaths. Peter Parker is curled up in tears getting comforted by one of the other heroes as they cry themselves. Bucky is standing in a corner, shedding tears quietly. Rhodey and Pepper are hugging each other as tears stream down their faces. Eventually, one of them steps up and gives a speech about fighting back and not letting their deaths be in vain.

The last scene of the film is a long funeral scene for all six, as the world collectively mournes with tons of shots of children wearing Avengers merchandise bawling their eyes out.

edited 27th Nov '17 10:28:50 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#76919: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:45:44 AM

Okay I know Marvel wouldn’t do that but how dare you make me imagine it ;_;

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#76920: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:50:26 AM

Sounds like this'll be the end of an era indeed.

...Why is my mind suddenly flashing to this song (especially to the 2:40-2:52 mark)? sad

God, that 2:40-2:52 mark is just so simple and powerful at the same time...(sniff)

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#76921: Nov 27th 2017 at 10:52:06 AM

[up][up][up] Maybe that should be reserved for the fourth Avengers film, but instead, have all 6 using their combined strength for one last hurrah.

edited 27th Nov '17 10:52:16 AM by Luigisan98

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#76922: Nov 27th 2017 at 11:41:30 AM

>Peter Parker is curled up in tears getting comforted by one of the other heroes as they cry themselves

Going for a solid gut punch they'll have Tony survive but Peter Parker will suffer worse injuries then he did during Civil war or when he fought the Vulture

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#76923: Nov 27th 2017 at 11:47:53 AM

I'm seeing a lot of murmurings that Avengers 4 might be the final MCU film ever, but not seeing a lot to back that up. There's a lot of articles on the internet right now saying that Kevin Feige has definitively and unambiguously stated that Avengers 4 is the end of the MCU, but then quoting nothing of the sort.

Feige's said that after Avengers 4, Marvel's plans are going to be very different from what came bfeore it. He's said that Avengers 4 represents a very clear punctuation mark, and that there will be a visible distinction between films that came before it and films that came after it. But nowhere has he said, "Avengers 4 is the last MCU film."

It honestly just sounds to me like he's hedging his bets in case some of the actors don't want to come back, and also thinking about shaking things up tonally now that Perlmutter's no longer driving the franchise.

edited 27th Nov '17 11:48:57 AM by TobiasDrake

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#76924: Nov 27th 2017 at 11:56:13 AM

What he seems to be saying is that this will probably be the last movie of this current formation of the Avengers.

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#76925: Nov 27th 2017 at 11:57:24 AM

[up][up] There are definite plans for future Spider-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy movies (we already have Vol. 3 confirmed for 2020, I believe, and of course there was the Sequel Hook with Adam Warlock), so yeah, that stinks of bullshit.

edited 27th Nov '17 11:57:41 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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