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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#76776: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:22:13 AM

I disagreeeee

Also the difference between Aquaman and Namor is that one is king of Atlantis and the other of Abslantis

Also Namor keeps trying to seduce married women and he's awkward to invite to parties

edited 24th Nov '17 8:23:39 AM by Bocaj

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#76777: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:25:33 AM

The trick with Namor is that he's a massive prick. That ought to be enough to keep people from thinking he's an Aquaman ripoff.

Oh God! Natural light!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#76778: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:29:08 AM

Aquaman edges ever so closer to Namor when people overcompensate on the perception that Aquaman is useless or silly

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#76779: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:32:01 AM

Aquaman in the Justice League cartoon pretty much was Namor.

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#76780: Nov 24th 2017 at 9:00:08 AM

He even served a stint with the Defenders

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#76781: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:09:12 AM

He even refused to wear a shirt. Even to Superman's fucking funeral.

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#76782: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:16:23 AM

Hey Martian Manhunter didn't wear a shirt either. And Diana didn't even have the decency to wear pants

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#76783: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:19:07 AM

Man, Superman's friends are jerks

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#76785: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:36:16 AM

Let's take a look at this article...

Wonder Women: Okay, the writer of the article is a giant dip shit. There was never a good reason why Wonder Woman shouldn't get her own movie. Hell, her movie managed to be successful even though it was saddled with the terrible reputation of the DCEU.

The Green Lantern Granted, the movie we got was terrible, but if Got G works, The Green Lantern could certainly be a great movie, too.

Arm-Fall-Off-Boy Who?????

Thor I wonder what this guy thinks now that Thor Ragnarok outgrossed Justice League......

She-Hulk Why not?

Dogwelder Okay, I admit, that one is a PETA protest waiting to happen....

The Legion of the Superpets That one actually sounds like fun.....perhaps WB should learn from big hero 6 and let Illumination do it....

Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man Ooookay........

Captain Boomerang As we learned by now, you can make every villain either really interesting or really dump, no matter how their status in the comics is.

The Red Bee Well, if you adjust his powers a little bit....

The ones that didn't make the cut… Honestly, I can imagine that there are a lot of really, really dumb comic book characters which should better stay forgotten. Let's look which one of those didn't stay forgotten....

The Absorbing Man: Turns into everything his touches, which must make going to the loo a nightmare.

And is one of my favourite recurring characters in Agents of Shield.

Green Arrow: He fires arrows…usually green ones. Reverse Flash: Same as the Flash, but bad.

Yeah, those two would never work...who would care about THEM aside from a whole chunk of the CW viewership, naturally.

Yep, this one is really amusing in hindsight.

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#76786: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:39:39 AM

It's weird to single out a single character from Legion of Superheroes when you'd assume any movie would an ensemble piece

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#76787: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:49:52 AM

A League of Regrettable Superheroes Legion of Superheroes adaptation might be right around the corner. Matter Eater Lad, Porcupine Pete, Infectious Lass, False Pretenses Lad... Arm Fall Off Boy and his pal from the other publisher Armless Tiger Man should fit right in.

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#76788: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:57:09 AM

No, Armless Tiger Man is evil. He'd be their villain.

And Arm-Fall-Off Boy would defeat him by removing his own arms and sticking them on Armless Tiger Man's stumps, destroying his identity and giving him an existential crisis.

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#76789: Nov 24th 2017 at 10:58:46 AM

It'd make for a heartwarming redemption arc.

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#76790: Nov 24th 2017 at 11:20:32 AM

> She-Hulk Why not?

because giant green women are hideous wink

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#76791: Nov 24th 2017 at 11:36:52 AM

I demand a She-Hulk legal drama tv show.

And Trish Walker partners with her to set up a super temp agency.

edited 24th Nov '17 11:37:11 AM by Tuckerscreator

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#76792: Nov 24th 2017 at 1:53:32 PM

The best cracked article is 5 reasons superhero movies are a bubble about to burst. From 2013, which framed Guardians of the Galaxy as the death knell of the superhero boom.

Oh how wrong were they..

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#76793: Nov 24th 2017 at 2:03:27 PM

Sure,the bubble didn't burst then,but it could good happen now.

edited 24th Nov '17 2:03:40 PM by Ultimatum

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#76794: Nov 24th 2017 at 2:19:01 PM

It's always weird when people put characters on these "MUST NOT GET A MOVIE" lists who are clearly meant to be jokes. Arm-Fall-Off Boy's entire reason for existing as a character was to be a stupid idiot with a dumbass power who is immediately rejected from joining a superteam. Nobody would even consider giving this character a film, because the shittiness of the character is literally the point.

Congratulations on being the first person in the entire universe to notice that parodic characters are goofy. Here's a tip: if you run into a character on Wikipedia and go, "Wow, that concept is so stupid nobody could possibly take it seriously," maybe check and see if anyone did before you start making cracks about it.

edited 24th Nov '17 2:21:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#76795: Nov 24th 2017 at 2:19:51 PM

I don't think there even is a bubble to burst. The superhero "genre" effectively doesn't exist. It's part of its appeal: it can be anything. Heist movie, conspiracy thriller, high fantasy, psychological drama, straight-up drama, raunchy comedy and we're even going into the realms of [[horror.

It's a genre that thrives on reinveing itself. The worst that can happen is the MCU bubble bursting (as MCU movies often follow a similar stylistic pattern). Fox was early in the game (in a shocking turn of events) and realized they need to fresh things up, which is why Logan, Deadpool and the New Mutants happened, to be new and inventive and find new audiences.

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#76796: Nov 24th 2017 at 5:22:17 PM

Honestly, PETA's done such monstrous and backwards shit, that I wouldn't put it past them to endorse a Dogwelder movie.

Also, I would love a Superpets movie. Just as long as they don't talk, watching Ace and Krypto lead a film solely on the power of cute and badass animals could be great.

edited 24th Nov '17 5:29:35 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#76797: Nov 24th 2017 at 6:03:41 PM

The cinematic Super-Pets team can be Ace the Bat-Hound, Krypto the Super-Dog, Ch'p the Green Lantern, Streaky the Super-Cat, Wonder Woman's Amazonian kangaroo named Jumpa, Flash's pet turtle, and Aquaman's pet kraken named Topo. The antagonist of the movie can be the tragic villain Red Lantern cat Dex-Starr.

edited 24th Nov '17 6:04:07 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#76798: Nov 25th 2017 at 2:25:22 AM

Yeah the superhero “genre” has basically become a meta genre, you don’t get superhero movies so much as moves set in standard genres that feature superheroes.

Also Arm-Fall-Off-Boy or similar could totally work in a comedy bit in say the MCU.

“The Avengers records have been seized by the government, luckily I’d padded then with a number of fake heroes so they won’t know who is real and who isn’t.”

“let me see that. Arm-Fall-Off-Boy? Tony have you started drinking again?”

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#76799: Nov 25th 2017 at 2:45:16 AM

Arm-Fall-Off-Boy is DC.

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