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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#76751: Nov 22nd 2017 at 9:48:47 PM

Jared Harris would've made a pretty good Vulture, I think. Maybe Justin Hammer if they hadn't made him so young — too bad they're both already taken. He'd make a good MODOK, too, but I say that about everybody.

edited 22nd Nov '17 10:12:00 PM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76752: Nov 22nd 2017 at 10:04:40 PM

We already had Natalie Dormer cameo in the first Captain America. She's still my pick for Yelena Belova if they ever make a Black Widow solo movie.

For some reason Andrew Scott makes me think of a Large Ham villain. Someone like the Ringmaster or Mysterio.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#76753: Nov 22nd 2017 at 10:11:22 PM

I was thinking maybe Chameleon or the Leader.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76754: Nov 22nd 2017 at 10:28:19 PM

The Leader already has an actor, the MCU has just given up on him as an idea thanks to their inability to make Hulk movies.

The first thing I thought of when reading Lucy Liu was Lucia Von Bardas for some reason, even though that doesn't make an awful lot of sense. Assuming no gender lift is involved (in which case the possibilities are limitless), she'd make a pretty cool Superia. Or Titania, in the tv series (since being in a Battle Couple with Absorbing Man is a must, and he's a tv only character thus far).

Actually, she'd make a pretty awesome Madame Masque too, but we already had one of those.

edited 22nd Nov '17 10:32:29 PM by KnownUnknown

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#76755: Nov 22nd 2017 at 10:36:41 PM

And the Hulk already had an actor before Mark Ruffalo, two of them. Tim Blake Nelson would be kind of cool to have back, but hey, as long we're fantasy casting and looking for a spot for Jim Moriarty...

Like, this'll never happen, but when I think of the Leader, I always think of Matt Damon. And I'm only half joking. Think The Informant.

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#76757: Nov 22nd 2017 at 11:01:56 PM

On the subject of Yelena Belova, I've seen some speculation that Black Widow's blonde hairdo in Infinity War may be her using Belova as an alternate identity while she's on the run.

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#76758: Nov 22nd 2017 at 11:19:26 PM

[up][up]I'm open to that, though I tend to picture the Leader as being more manic.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76759: Nov 22nd 2017 at 11:31:31 PM

Matt Damon already has a role in the MCU...a tiny one, but he has one.

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#76760: Nov 23rd 2017 at 7:15:36 AM

RE: Jude Law in Captain Marvel: I'm tempted to say we're hitting Sherlock-ception...

(Not saying I disapprove this casting choice, I just think it's hilarious we'll be having 2 Sherlocks and 2 Watsons in the MCU.)

RE: Lucy Liu in a hypothetical MCU role: can Marvel use Viper? Or is she one of the more complicated characters because she's prominent to both the Avengers and the X-Men?

Hjortron18 Since: Jul, 2015
#76761: Nov 23rd 2017 at 10:14:28 AM

[up][up] Maybe the Leader sneaked into Asgard and worked as an actor for some time?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76762: Nov 23rd 2017 at 10:20:58 AM

[up][up] Honestly, this is really not that surprising....we also have a large chunk of the Lot R cast in the MCU. Just like most of the relevant British actors turned up in the Harry Potter movies, the MCU will eventually cover a huge chunk of the Hollywood talent. I mean we are now at a point at which academy award winners turn up in uncredited roles - I am ready to bet that this was just so that they could later say "yeah, I was part of this, too"!

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76763: Nov 23rd 2017 at 10:24:42 AM

At this point it's kind of redundant to point out that an actor in a Marvel or DC movie was also in a superhero movie from another studio. The market has been saturated to such a degree that by sheer probability it makes sense to have many actors who've double dipped, so to speak.

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#76764: Nov 23rd 2017 at 10:53:47 AM

I want to see Mariah Dillard meet Miriam Sharpe.

Or Col. Schoonover meet Surtur.

Just to see what happens to the universe.

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123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#76765: Nov 23rd 2017 at 11:06:04 AM

There’s also going to be a Sherlock film starring Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly next year (please don’t ask). If we we get Ferrell in the MCU it’ll be triple Sherlock. That or Johnny Depp when referring to Sherlock Gnomes...

edited 23rd Nov '17 11:07:07 AM by 123tbones

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76766: Nov 23rd 2017 at 5:45:10 PM

If the MCU were ever to make a villain or anti-hero led film or series, would Taskmaster be a good candidate for that sort of thing?

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#76767: Nov 23rd 2017 at 6:21:24 PM

Sure!

Or not.

The thing is execution is more important than concept. A Taskmaster movie could be great, it could be bad. It depends on, you know, production staff.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#76768: Nov 23rd 2017 at 9:22:14 PM

Don't think I posted this (apologies if I did), but when I look at how he's drawn in the comics, especially in Secret Empire, I think Jared Harris looks a lot like Doctor Faustus. I men I definitely liked the take on him in Agent Carter as a Darker and Edgier Boris Badanoff, but if you wanted a handsome but sinister Psycho Psychologist, Jared Harris is your guy.

I think Taskmaster is a cool character, but as an antagonist or a Boxed Crook reporting to a hero, rather than a main character. Because one of his "things" is the fact that he's Only in It for the Money, and while not really malicious, is amoral, and so will occasionally do he right thing if it's in his self-interest. Which I think makes him rather predictable, because while the outcome might be in doubt (although honestly, he's going to do the bad things nine times out of ten), there's no difficult moral choices, since Taskmaster is always going to do what he sees as in his interest.

I was thinking the other day about my joking suggestion of Luis turning out to be Taskmaster and his myriad interests being a foreshadowing of Taskmaster's powers. However, it struck me that Taskmaster would never go out of his way to save people the way Luis does in Ant Man, because honey badger Taskmaster don't care.

edited 23rd Nov '17 9:23:36 PM by Hodor2

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#76769: Nov 24th 2017 at 6:47:27 AM

I think Taskmaster would make a great protagonist for a live-action series. His powerset is perfect for a low-budget product and the serial nature of television would allow the story to build his skillset over the course of the show. It'd allow for great continuity-bonuses like Taskmaster taking down a dude in season 3, episode 5 with that cool maneuver he picked up from that asshole in season 2, episode 18.

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#76770: Nov 24th 2017 at 7:01:52 AM

Oh my god, I found the best article from 2008.

Top 10 comic book characters who should never be in a movie.

4 out of the 10 have been in movies, and a large number of the honorable mentions have gotten roles in the TV shows.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76771: Nov 24th 2017 at 7:04:41 AM

"I don't like women with pecs bigger than me" what a dipshit.

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#76772: Nov 24th 2017 at 7:05:41 AM

It's very 2008.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76773: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:04:21 AM

I still remember that Cracked "comic book movies that must be stopped" article that included Thor and Ant-Man, and - my person favorite - also mentioned Namor with some insane logic that amounted to "Namor is essentially a blond copy of Aquaman, and Aquaman is useless, so Namor is useless, and thus making a Namor movie is a stupid idea," none of which makes any sense.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76774: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:11:07 AM

Years ago I read an EW article where they had an editorial from an author who wrote about the plague of superhero movies and talked about how Marvel had greenlit Ant-Man, and used that as evidence we were about to get superhero fatigue and that this whole house of cards was about to come crashing down.

This was 2010.

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#76775: Nov 24th 2017 at 8:17:24 AM

[up]To be fair, it kinda make sense, Antman is good but is movie is bland as hell and he is pretty much Iron man(again), let see if Waps and Antman helpt matters.

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