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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76701: Nov 20th 2017 at 9:47:07 PM

I think playing pop cultural music during the trip-out scenes would probably distract from them, regardless of how trippy the song itself is. It's not the same as hyping a battle up with The Immigrant Song or doing a prison montage to Hooked on a Feeling.

edited 20th Nov '17 9:48:20 PM by Anomalocaris20

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#76702: Nov 20th 2017 at 9:49:56 PM

Even something like this?

Maybe fade this shit into the background or something but it'd work as good mood music for something trippy. I dunno, for a movie that people boasted about emulating the trippy Ditko art (I think it was Ditko, right?), the film kinda felt tame outside of the one scene. Just amp that shit up, make it trippier, score it with some acid rock or something. People complain about the MCU having a scoring problem, do some kind of acid rock instrumental score or some prog rock shit like Goblin.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76703: Nov 20th 2017 at 9:58:02 PM

Non-diegetic popular music must be handled with care. Immigrant Song was great but it could have easily sounded dumb if the tone of the movie was even slightly darker than it was.

In this case, I can't really say one way or another. I thought it was fine as is but a song like that playing could have worked.

This song needs more love.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#76704: Nov 20th 2017 at 10:13:37 PM

I'm just saying, I know the MCU has an infamous problem with their scores, so Doctor Strange could've done something to fit the psychedelia by either using old 60's/70's space rock like Pink Floyd or maybe just original compositions.

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XJTordecai Watch the seventh wave Since: Jun, 2013
Watch the seventh wave
#76705: Nov 20th 2017 at 10:14:38 PM

New to this thread. Saw Thor: Ragnarock yesterday, great stuff. All signs I've seen have pointed to it being the best Thor movie by a longshot, which I can believe. Fun characters and visuals, great action, great comedy, great villain, shocking ending. Also basically the best use of Immigrant Song I've seen. Also also, Korg. Just need to see Spiderman: Homecoming and Justice League and I'm all caught up on the notable superhero movie releases this year. God, I could gush for a while about just how good this year's been for those.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#76706: Nov 20th 2017 at 10:48:19 PM

[up][up]I will say that a song playing during the final "battle" with Dormammu that kept repeating the same part every time he reset would have been hilarious.

edited 20th Nov '17 10:48:30 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#76708: Nov 20th 2017 at 11:00:00 PM

[up][up] "Heeeeeeat of the moment . . ."

[up] That would work better during an earlier psychedlic scene in the movie. You know the one.

edited 20th Nov '17 11:00:53 PM by RavenWilder

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#76709: Nov 20th 2017 at 11:08:18 PM

shocking ending

Eh, I saw it coming.

[up] Hah!

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76710: Nov 21st 2017 at 3:32:14 AM

When Doctor Strange was announced my biggest concern was the writing team. And I was right. The script is the main problem the movie has, which is usually a deal breaker for me, no matter how great the visuals are (hear me Avatar?) or how engaging the actors are, I am a sticker for good writing. BUT there are three things which rescue the movie for me:

1. There is a thematic underpinning to the whole thing which actually works, even though I only realized this towards the very end, when the camera pans on the broken watch.

2. The last talk between The Ancient One and Doctor Strange. There is so much to unpack in the scene, even more than in the talk between Vision and Ulton in Age of Ultron.

3. The ending. You have to admit, the way they handled the last battle is bloody brilliant. That whole sequence makes it worth it to watch how the movie clumsily moves Doctor Strange in the right place to make him doing this mean something.

VoidsEmpathy Emissary of the Void from Realm of In-Between Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: A heart full of love
Emissary of the Void
#76711: Nov 21st 2017 at 9:14:34 AM

Well, I certainly loved DS, but I can see why the criticisms are there. To be honest, it's still very much an origin story with all the parts that entail, both good and bad.

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#76713: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:04:16 AM

So Runaways has started and (no spoilers) we had a character reference “the Obama administration”, does this screw with the timeline at all? Though the reference implied that it was more than a year since Obama so it could work with the old theory that Obama served between 2008 and 2012 in the MCU.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#76714: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:12:00 AM

That is pretty much the canon interpretation, as Luke Cage also references Obama.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76715: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:32:30 AM

In my head canon, Obama didn't finish his first term (I blame Hydra) in order to explain why Ellis is president towards the end of 2012. Sorry Obama. But hey, Trump had never the chance to built a political career on birtherism, so Hydra might have accidentally done some good.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#76716: Nov 21st 2017 at 10:35:10 AM

I just saw civil war again last week and I have to said some things:

-Wanda is pretty much a suport chararter in combat terms: she move away Black widow and does the same later and even stop the tower for falling while being take down in one hit, she is pretty much squishy wizard.

-Vision on the other hand is pretty much a fucking tank with cape, I think him and Wanda can balence very well each other....which make sense as they are romantic parners in comics.

-Poor Rhodey, not only he was cripple by his own team, but damn Scott really give him a bad time: throwing a Gas truck at him, kick him right into a plane and toss him like rag doll....im really surprise it was Vision who did damage consider how much he endure, Stark tech I guess.

- Yeah....haweye rage as stark is silly.

-Also, when tony show Falcon that psychitrist was murder by Zemo he look really serious....I always feel Falcon is the skeptic to Cap idealist: he trust his friend sure but he isnt always 100% on his plans.

-"My name is hawkeye" "I dont care" damn, that line was gold.evil grin

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#76717: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:40:29 AM

Irony!

  • Stark: I don't want to build weapons only for them to be used to harm American soldiers.
  • Stark builds Vision.
  • Vision cripples COL Rhodes.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#76718: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:45:22 AM

Damn it, Tony, stop being the worst at everything. That's Danny Rand's job!

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76719: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:46:24 AM

You leave Tony alone!

edited 21st Nov '17 11:46:31 AM by Ultimatum

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#76720: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:50:11 AM

The Invincible Irony Man.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#76721: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:53:13 AM

[up][up]Dont worry, Winter woldier already leave Tony alone tongue....

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76722: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:55:59 AM

It's like Tony's killer robot led to the Accords or something,which led to civil war!

dang tony,it IS fault

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#76723: Nov 21st 2017 at 11:59:24 AM

[up]Sure, but bucky kill his parent which make rackles which contributed into Ultron.

So in hindsight, is all bucky fault. smile

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#76724: Nov 21st 2017 at 12:00:47 PM

Stark: I don't want to build weapons only for them to be used to harm American soldiers.

Stark builds Vision

Vision cripples COL Rhodes.

It's Always Sunny in the Avengers Tower. '

edited 21st Nov '17 12:01:01 PM by Gaon

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76725: Nov 21st 2017 at 12:00:56 PM

[up] [up]bucky was brain washed and crazy,he's innocent too!

edited 21st Nov '17 12:01:15 PM by Ultimatum

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