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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76276: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:35:42 PM

[up][up] When she decides to go back to the place Ward showed her in order to discover the truth for example.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76277: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:37:59 PM

Your wording is kinda vague there.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76278: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:41:23 PM

[up] Well, I can't open the Markup help, and I keep forgetting how to do Spoiler tags, and since there is at least one person currently reading the discussion who is still catching up with Iron Fist and my examples are from the last episode I went with the one I could word vaguely.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76279: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:42:29 PM

Fair enough, just kind of impedes discussion because I can't exactly remember what you're referring to.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#76281: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:44:30 PM

[[spoiler: TEXT.]]

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76282: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:45:18 PM

...maybe? My memory is fuzzy.

Is it her meeting Harold?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#76283: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:48:22 PM

More specifically, Joy's arc is about how her agency being taken away is bad for her as a person and her taking back her agency is good. It's also a clever look at the mindset of secret identities, and why they suck.

edited 4th Nov '17 1:48:58 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76284: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:54:04 PM

Yep, while Harold is the one who lets her into the elevator, she is the one who decides to go there to figure out what Ward wanted to show her. And then she is the one who takes down the Hand's drug operation, which, according to her, makes her feel happy. And when she discovers that Harold just used her too, and the extend of how Ward and him left her in the dark, she leaves. You know, I was first slightly p... that he picture wasn't at the wall, but then I realized that the company isn't really what Joy wanted. She felt that she wanted to keep her position because she had worked so hard for it, but in the end, this is just another symbol of Harold's control. So in the end, she is the one who shakes herself free of those chains while Ward is the one who keeps stuck in the live, but accepts it as some kind of atonement for everything he did in Harold's name. Ideally she will now go undercover in order to learn everything about the hand so that she can take it down one day for good (at least in terms of financial connections), because she has the ability to do so and this is actually something she truly enjoys doing.

edited 4th Nov '17 2:00:11 PM by Swanpride

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76285: Nov 4th 2017 at 1:58:52 PM

Eh, I give you an 86 B.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76287: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:02:11 PM

Was a joke, you said test so I graded it.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76288: Nov 4th 2017 at 2:06:08 PM

[up] Oh...okay, grading works different over here. Plus, this was naturally only a placeholder to make sure that I got it right.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#76289: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:39:17 PM

This article is kind of hilarious now that Ragnarok did kill characters and have them stay dead, so far anyway. http://www.cracked.com/article_25011_we-need-more-deaths-in-marvel-movies-no-seriously.html

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76290: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:50:38 PM

Hey people rarly stay dead in the comics so it's only reflecting the source material unless it's Uncle Ben,who stays dead

edited 4th Nov '17 4:51:35 PM by Ultimatum

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#76291: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:52:53 PM

They used to stay dead until Superman died and came back to life.

The Protomen enhanced my life.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76292: Nov 4th 2017 at 4:54:21 PM

Not really, still happened before that.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76293: Nov 4th 2017 at 5:05:59 PM

It's been happening since that Jesus fellow died on the cross and came back to life again

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#76294: Nov 4th 2017 at 7:36:50 PM

Uncle Ben never really died, though. He lives on in our hearts...

...And in our stomachs as Uncle Ben's Ready Rice. Comes in twenty-three different varieties. And if you order our Great Power Rice in the next fifteen minutes, you'll get a package of our Great Responsibility Rice with it for free!

edited 4th Nov '17 7:37:10 PM by Anomalocaris20

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#76295: Nov 4th 2017 at 7:40:07 PM

[up]

...And in our stomachs as Uncle Ben's Ready Rice.

...Does this mean Uncle Ben got a Race Lift?

edited 4th Nov '17 7:40:51 PM by kkhohoho

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#76296: Nov 4th 2017 at 8:12:52 PM

That cracked article is not really right about the Groot thing either. Although it wasn't immediately clear at the end of GOTG 1.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76297: Nov 5th 2017 at 3:23:23 AM

Guys, a little bit more careful. I just learned more than I wanted to learn because I am not THAT stupid. Give people a little bit of time to actually go to the cinema.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76298: Nov 5th 2017 at 4:04:22 AM

Ragnarok doesn't really kill important characters, though, which is what the article is referring to. Even Odin has gotten increasingly less major a character as the series went on. It actually does a different kind of killing that sometimes gets criticism: callously and abruptly cleaning house of the series' previous supporting cast so that it can focus on its all new concept instead.

It's the same kind of "I'm not using these characters, so let's just kill 'em off!" mentality that Batman V Superman got in a little bit of trouble for.

edited 5th Nov '17 4:06:02 AM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76299: Nov 5th 2017 at 5:20:17 AM

[up] How about you take the discussion to the Thor thread? I now know even more that I didn't want to know.....

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76300: Nov 5th 2017 at 6:47:04 AM

Sorry! Just sounding in. I have no intention of continuing the discussion myself.

edited 5th Nov '17 6:49:39 AM by KnownUnknown


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