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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#76001: Oct 28th 2017 at 9:12:31 PM

Didn't Dark World leave a giant ice monster from Jotunheim on Earth?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76002: Oct 28th 2017 at 9:16:31 PM

Yes, as a gag, but nobody ever reacted to it that we can see. Even Agents of SHIELD completely ignored its presence in an episode that mentioned the cleanup of Dark World (granted, it was a Red Skies Crossover), which makes me think it was ultimately more Rule of Funny.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#76003: Oct 28th 2017 at 9:25:22 PM

I choose to believe it has become a cryptid.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#76004: Oct 28th 2017 at 9:48:41 PM

The cryptid London deserves.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#76005: Oct 28th 2017 at 10:31:50 PM

I'd like to think he went to college to study law. He might be a monster but darn it he's going to make his mark on the world.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#76006: Oct 28th 2017 at 11:00:39 PM

Thor's shown to be pretty open about socializing with humans. I have to assume that, at some point, a reporter got some face time with him and he laid out how the whole Nine Realms thing works.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#76007: Oct 28th 2017 at 11:36:29 PM

Why would you have to assume that? It's a neat idea, but not much more than that.

Like, I have the headcanon that the 60's Captain America series exists in-universe in the MCU as an ode to a historical hero, a la Disney's Davy Crockett series in this universe. It's something that makes sense for the universe as we see it, but it's also not supported by anything in-universe so it's just an idea.

edited 28th Oct '17 11:39:06 PM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#76008: Oct 29th 2017 at 9:45:17 AM

It's funny because I don't think it's been addressed in the movies how much the public actually knows about the Avengers. Sam immediately recognizes Steve when they first meet in The Winter Soldier and is already aware he was frozen and then thawed out, so presumably that was well documented. And I think some of the Avengers have their full names mentioned on the news in Civil War, so presumably their identities are public. And of course everyone knows Tony Stark.

But beyond that I'm not sure how much info about them is public record.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#76009: Oct 29th 2017 at 9:55:39 AM

If Wanda's full name can be mentioned on live TV, then I'm sure at least some of it is public knowledge.

Plus, SHIELD's database was leaked online, so...

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76010: Oct 29th 2017 at 10:00:29 AM

Considering that Natasha released the Shield files to the public, more or less everything. Cap has his whole live in a museum anyway and Tony has always been more or less a public figure (though I do wonder if the truth about Stane was also in those files). Question is more how much about Ultron became public.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#76011: Oct 29th 2017 at 10:02:33 AM

It's hard not to have Ultron public considering how much damage he caused,they would have to release some infomation on him or risk further condemnation

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#76012: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:15:29 PM

Plus, they threw that huge party in Age of Ultron. No way did Thor spend several hours mingling there without getting a bunch of, "So are you really a Norse god?"

I'm disappointed to hear that at no point during Iron Fist or The Defenders did someone casually reference the existence of alien invaders, Norse gods, and giant green rage monsters, causing Danny (who's been in K'un Lun for the last fifteen years) to go, "What?"

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#76013: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:19:45 PM

  • Danny: What the hell am I watching?
  • Colleen: Battle of New York.
  • Danny: And this is on the Twitter channel?
  • Colleen: You Tube.
  • Danny: And what movie did you say this was?
  • Colleen: This isn't a movie. This actually happened.
  • Danny: No, it didn't.
  • Colleen: Seriously, this happened.
  • Danny: That big green guy just stopped the alien dragon worm by punching it really hard on the face. This is a movie.
  • Colleen: That's the Hulk. That's what his punches do.
  • Danny: ...
  • Colleen: What?
  • Danny: Nothing. I don't want to talk about it.
  • Colleen: Feeling inadequate. Gotcha.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#76014: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:22:42 PM

I think Danny's going to be the most impressed when he sees how far video game graphics have come.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#76015: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:35:19 PM

  • Danny Rand: THIS is what Legend of Zelda looks like now?!
  • Peter Quill: I know, right?!
  • Steve Rogers: What's a Zelda?

edited 29th Oct '17 1:35:59 PM by TobiasDrake

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76016: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:36:39 PM

...fuck, Danny and Star Lord's probably would get along, wouldn't they?

At least until Danny crosses a line and Peter slugs him or something.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#76017: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:45:19 PM

That awkward moment where you realize that Peter "I forgot you were here!" Quill treats women with more respect than Danny Rand.

They both have difficulty taking "no" for an answer but at least Quill listens when Gamora talks. At least, when he's not distracted by how cool his dad is.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#76018: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:45:37 PM

The MCU has so many Fish out of Temporal Water characters.

[up] True. Quill does seem to have more Character Development than Danny does, that's for sure.

edited 29th Oct '17 1:46:23 PM by DeathsApprentice

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#76019: Oct 29th 2017 at 1:53:09 PM

I mean Peter Quill got a reasonable deconstruction of his immaturity in the second Guardians film so at least the narrative knows he's an immature ass who needs to grow up.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#76020: Oct 29th 2017 at 4:53:41 PM

So this was an interesting read from Noelle Stevenson, talking about why she loves the first Thor movie. It sticks out to me because on the wider net and this forum, Thor is generally considered the most generic of the Marvel films, but here she talks about some ways she sees it as refreshingly subversive, So it's a neat thing to read and think over.

Noelle's pretty great, and she wrote for Thor Annual in 2015! I met her last weekend at a comic story party for her girlfriend's new book and we talked for a long while about her comics and favorite influences.

And if you wanted to send some money her way, you could at the bottom of her webpage here; her car recently got vandalized by bigoted jack***es who slashed the tires and scrawled slurs. :(

edited 29th Oct '17 4:55:36 PM by Tuckerscreator

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76021: Oct 29th 2017 at 5:01:48 PM

[up] I actually really enjoy the Shakespearean aspect in the first Thor. I just wish that the Thor arc were as strong as the Loki arc. Still, this is actually a Marvel movie I appreciate more and more with passing time, just for the scenes between Loki and Odin. I certainly don't agree with the notion that it is a bottom movie....I see it more as a middle tier movie.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#76022: Oct 29th 2017 at 5:12:09 PM

Stevenson's perspective was interesting to read, but I still don't really like the film much. Without Loki and the Asgard drama it would have nothing really going for it, and the Earth stuff really drags it down.

Then again, I haven't seen it in a long time, I guess because I just found it so offensively mediocre that I was in no hurry to watch it again.

edited 29th Oct '17 5:19:52 PM by Draghinazzo

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#76023: Oct 29th 2017 at 5:23:20 PM

[up] But Loki and his drama IS part of the movie. And it is not like the Thor part of the story is outright bad, it just needed a few tweaks (ie removing Selvig from the story). So you end up with a movie which is half mediocre but half really outstanding. And I know that it is fashionable to hate on Loki's popularity, but his backstory is a stroke of genius imho. Internalized Racism is a pretty good motivation for a villain.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#76024: Oct 29th 2017 at 5:25:00 PM

Sure, but the mediocre half of the movie really drained a lot of my enjoyment of it when I first saw it. I just didn't care about Thor or any of the Earth characters at all.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#76025: Oct 29th 2017 at 5:42:07 PM

RE: Noelle Stevenson: I keep hearing good things about Lumberjanes and Nimona.

And if you wanted to send some money her way, you could at the bottom of her webpage here; her car recently got vandalized by bigoted jack***es who slashed the tires and scrawled slurs. :(

...the things some people vaguely human-like creatures do to actual human beings.

I'm willing to bet whoever was the a-hole who did that, they're just miserable little nobodies who are jealous because awesome people like Noelle are doing stuff that they haven't due to cowardice or from loafing around.

The tire-slashing vandalizers should follow Bernadette's advice:

And Noelle should follow Bernie's other piece of advice:

Don't let it drag you down. Let it toughen you up.


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