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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75901: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:41:38 AM

I liked Darcy, I liked Selvig. I don't even remember what Jane does

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#75902: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:46:22 AM

Darcy? Jane's intern. Earth-side comic relief

Yep, don't remember her.

I'm reminded of when Agent Coulson died in Avengers and I didn't understand why that was supposed to be a big deal, because I didn't remember who he was either.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75903: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:48:29 AM

Even in only Avengers itself it's made pretty clear he's a common link between the Avengers

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#75904: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:52:28 AM

The impression I got from other people's reactions was that he was supposed to be this Ensemble Dark Horse character prior to the movie, and killing him was supposed to be this big thing that affects the audience. But I didn't think anything of his character in the previous movies, not enough to remember him or care about him, so I was confused about the film placing so much importance on him dying.

Then again, I'm not really a big fan of the first Avengers film in general.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75905: Oct 27th 2017 at 7:58:58 AM

Coulson's appeal was being the straight man to the budding comic book his world was becoming. Then in Avengers he turns out to be a massive Captain America fanboy, which made him an endearing dork on top of that.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#75906: Oct 27th 2017 at 8:31:47 AM

Huh, the Thor Ragnarok director wants to make a Black Widow film... as a comedy. https://www.cbr.com/taika-waititi-black-widow-film-comedy/

EDIT: The Coulson thing reminds me of a YA book I read called All The Feels about a fan's successful quest to prove their favorite character didn't actually die and force continuations of the story. It was inspired by the #BringBackColuson thing, which a friend of the author's started and successfully got to work all because they refused to accept he was dead XD

edited 27th Oct '17 8:38:14 AM by lalalei2001

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#75907: Oct 27th 2017 at 8:50:27 AM

Seems like they might be reading into it a little? There's something of a difference between a movie with comedic elements and a movie that you'd call a comedy. Also this is a guy who jokes around a lot, so without hearing his tone from the interview, I kind of wonder how serious he was in that moment.

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#75908: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:16:42 AM

Darcy gets a bum rap in the Thor films. Of the three main human characters, she's the one I actually like.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#75909: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:30:48 AM

I would say Coulson didn't get as much shit as Thor's Earth pals because he's relatively unobtrusive in the actual movies themselves. He doesn't actually really do much in any of them except Avengers, and even then he's dead by the end of the second act.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75910: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:30:57 AM

I think it's because of her actress more than anything.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75911: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:32:29 AM

Thor's cast is weird.

It seems like having Jane and Selvig both are redundant and Selvig really gets better moments with Thor overall.

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#75912: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:34:57 AM

Jane suffers immensely from Obligatory Love Interest Syndrome, wherein she only really seems to exist to be a life support system for the hero's favorite vagina. The character redundancy with Selvig and tendency for him to get all the Big Science Person moments contributes significantly to that.

edited 27th Oct '17 9:35:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75913: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:36:29 AM

What if the characters were fused and Selvig became the love interest

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#75914: Oct 27th 2017 at 9:38:44 AM

Then the MCU would have its first gay superhero.

I'd be for it.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#75915: Oct 27th 2017 at 10:19:29 AM

https://swanpride.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/marvellous-and-dcent-jane-foster/

Among other things I also discuss why removing Selvig from the movie would have improved Jane as a character.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#75916: Oct 27th 2017 at 10:19:57 AM

I wil be honest: I like darcy and selvig waaaay more than those sig or whatever other asgardian who weren loki and odin, they have personality(little bit but they have it), is earth what was the problem.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#75917: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:16:05 AM

I like Jane and Darcy. They both read as actual characters with their own motivations and personalities. Jane goes to fetch Thor FOR THE SCIENCE in the first movie. She’s not really interested in him until later. Darcy is a good comedic everywoman character.

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#75918: Oct 27th 2017 at 11:24:08 AM

I feel like Darcy's reputation might have gone downhill thanks to Kat Dennings being infamous for starring on 2 Broke Girls. Because clearly, if an actor is on an enormously shitty movie or TV show, they suck and never made anything good whatsoever. It's like how people used to rag on Kristen Stewart because of Twilight even though she had roles where she actually showed she wasn't a bad actress, or how people ragged on Ben Affleck because of Gigli and Daredevil until he directed Argo.

edited 27th Oct '17 11:24:37 AM by AdricDePsycho

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#75919: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:42:36 PM

Fusing Selvig and Jane would be good for character efficiency, but I feel it would also demand drastic change of Thor’s behavior towards Loki in the first Avengers film. There is no way he would be the charitable “good cop” of the team with his brother if he knew Loki was personally imprisoning his love interest.

edited 27th Oct '17 12:43:18 PM by Tuckerscreator

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#75920: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:46:27 PM

Darcy is like one of the few things I remember from the first two movies.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75921: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:54:57 PM

"This is just like the time he turned me into a frog so I'd miss norse prom"

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#75922: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:55:22 PM

[up][up][up]Which is weird because I like Darcy BECAUSE kenning role in two broke girls and kristen while good actress does have issue of dull surprise and one face.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#75923: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:56:33 PM

I mean, I distinctly remember a lot of complaining about Darcy in Thor: The Dark World, a sharp contrast to how people liked her in the first Thor.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#75924: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:57:31 PM

[up]Then you are surprising me right now because I like Darcy waaaaaaaay more in dark world, if anything Jane got worse thanks to aether geting stuck to her and nothing coming out of it.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75925: Oct 27th 2017 at 12:58:45 PM

I remember Darcy hate from around the dark world's runtime as well.


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