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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#75626: Oct 19th 2017 at 8:50:11 AM

I"m a bit surprised that Ross allowed it.

Just give me a few hints that Cass is going to grow up to become Stature and I'll be golden.

edited 19th Oct '17 8:50:31 AM by KnownUnknown

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#75627: Oct 19th 2017 at 8:53:13 AM

I'm guessing Tony cut a deal with Ross somehow - Scott is under house arrest and can't use the Ant-Man suit, but he isn't being thrown in prison and gets to be with his family.

edited 19th Oct '17 8:54:27 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#75628: Oct 19th 2017 at 10:20:06 AM

Makes sense. Scott was just trying to do the right thing, and acted under false information. Not that I expect Hank or Scott to appreciate what Tony did.

I wonder if he did similar stuff for Wanda and Hawkeye? No wait, we already know that Steve busted them out, so Scott's House Arrest status must have happened before Steve did that.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#75629: Oct 19th 2017 at 11:34:55 AM

[up] I think Scott was still in jail when they broke out at the end. It's possible he asked to stay behind or turned himself in later. The prequel Marvel's publishing that I linked to the other day seems to indicate he did not go on the run with Team Cap.

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#75630: Oct 19th 2017 at 11:58:32 AM

The obvious answer to me is that the Raft is a jail, not a prison. Scott got his day in court, was convicted, and was promptly sentenced. Given both the nature of his crime and the fact of America's overcrowded prison system - gotta leave some cells open for more minorities sentenced to 50 years for minor drug offenses, yo! - slapping an ankle monitor on him and kicking him out on probation is a logical result.

But that wouldn't make Team Iron Man look like puppy-kicking bad guys so that's probably not it.

edited 19th Oct '17 11:59:09 AM by TobiasDrake

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#75631: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:38:59 PM

Thor: Ragnarok launches with a 100% positive score on Rotten Tomatoes!

So far, it's just critic reviews since we won't be able to see it until November 3, but still! surprised grin

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#75632: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:43:43 PM

[up] Damn, it's must be one hell of a Even Better Sequel case!

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#75633: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:46:39 PM

That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a perfect film with no flaws, but it does mean that absolutely no reviewers thought it was a below-average film by any standards, which is EXCEEDINGLY rare.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#75634: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:48:26 PM

It's still just now getting reviews, let's be cautious. It'll most likely go down a little bit.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75635: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:52:52 PM

I'll join the "deflate your hype" train. There's literally no reason not to be anxious.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#75636: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:58:18 PM

There's only 34 reviews up right now. Of course, 34 reviews giving the film a high rating is something, I'll give it that, but I feel like it'll go down a bit regardless. That's kinda what happens.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#75637: Oct 19th 2017 at 12:58:28 PM

Uggggh, not these type of party-poopers...

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#75638: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:02:22 PM

Dude, it's just to be cautious. I'm not saying it'll suck, I've never doubted it'd be anything but great, but I highly doubt it's gonna stay at a 100%.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#75639: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:04:17 PM

This just goes to show how weirdly obsessed we've become with Rotten Tomatoes scores.

Actually reading the reviews reflects what I was figuring from the trailers, many say the movie is a lot of fun with Thor and Hulk on screen but there is not a whole lot of emphasis given to the actual stakes of the film, that of retaking Asgard.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#75640: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:13:40 PM

Damn, it's must be one hell of a Even Better Sequel case!

We must've seen very different Thor: The Dark Worlds then.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#75641: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:15:45 PM

Right now the bar is not that high: jsut be better than Thor and Dark world.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#75642: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:15:52 PM

I keep forgetting I've seen Thor: The Dark World.

Probably because I keep forgetting it exists.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#75643: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:16:37 PM

You couldn't pay me to remember what happened in Dark World.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#75644: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:17:07 PM

I didn't dislike Dark World but it does just kinda slip through the sewer grate of my memory from time to time.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#75645: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:21:12 PM

I keep remenbering as Loki: the movie, also with chris playing some dude with a hammer.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#75646: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:21:40 PM

All that I can recall about Dark World is that the bad guys were Dark elves who liked to Teleport Spam

edited 19th Oct '17 1:25:02 PM by Ultimatum

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#75647: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:26:17 PM

I remember the climax feeling like a potshot at Man of Steel, and that cameo from Captain America.

That’s about it.

Ragnarok proves you need to go full Jack Kirby with concepts like the Norse God of Thunder.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#75648: Oct 19th 2017 at 1:39:36 PM

Don't get too hyped...the score is only around 8 out of 10, (Variety btw weighted in and ruined the perfect score by now, as they always do) which points towards a good but not great movie, and the non-spoiler review at Collider suggested that it is a lot of fun but not much more than that.

But Marvel did it again. So many fresh movies in a row, that is really impressive.

Best moment of Thor The Dark World is easily the funeral scene - and what follows. I really like the Loki movie in The Dark World, but the Thor movie is just boring and distracting from the good stuff.

edited 19th Oct '17 1:42:28 PM by Swanpride

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#75649: Oct 19th 2017 at 2:14:45 PM

Civil War also started at 100% I think, but the fact we're 34 reviews in before someone found it not worth watching is pretty good. Still wouldn't put too much stock into it.

Anyway TDW is still the worst Marvel movie for me, just because I was actively feeling bored while in the process of watching it, something that I can't say for the other "worst" MCU films. GOTG 1 made me feel that way a lot of the time too but there were also plenty of really nice moments to cancel it out, whereas I can't say the same for TDW.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#75650: Oct 19th 2017 at 2:17:53 PM

Really?

The Dark World is worse than Iron Man 3?

I find that hard to believe.

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