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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#75426: Oct 12th 2017 at 11:03:49 AM

He didn't want the company to spite Ward and Joy, he wanted to reclaim his identity. That is what the whole show is about, tradition vs paving your own way, the expectations put on you vs your own desires. Danny is struggling with that.

Let's take his story apart, shall we?

So he grows up as a spoiled rich kid with loving parents. Than the plane crashes and he looses his parents in a very traumatic way. In fact, he looses everything he knew and is raised by monks who beat him in teach him to supress his emotions. He then wants to become the Iron Fist NOT because he feels that this is his calling or because he is particularly interested in guarding some path for forever, but because he is an outsider in this new society he is in and being the Iron Fist is the most respected role their is. Everyone wants it, so he wants it, too. He is kind of the kid who wants to be a lawyer because of the huge salaries.

So after years of supressing his emotions and training he actually becomes the Iron Fist and spends his days guarding a path, but not really feeling as the right place (think of a young person who started at an university and suddenly realizes that the direction picked was a mistake, but after the parents did everything to give said person the opportunity, doesn't really feel like it is possible to give up either). And then the path opens and Danny has for the first time the opportunity to go back to what was. And he does. He actually doesn't really want money, he only wants his old life back, only to discover that it is gone, too. But there is Rand, something his father build. So first he just wants his identity back and then he discovers that Rand is tainted, so he wants to fix it, all this without realizing what really pushes him forward is the desire for revenge.

And no, none of those feelings are healthy and a lot what Danny does is fairly egoistical. But he means well when he goes after the drug dealers. He means well when he wants to sell the drug cheap. He means well when he rescues the daughter of the Russian, even forgoing to following the teachings of Kunlun to put the victory over her life. He means well when he goes after the Hand.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#75427: Oct 12th 2017 at 11:52:15 AM

Okay this spot is pretty great.

edited 12th Oct '17 11:53:58 AM by comicwriter

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#75428: Oct 12th 2017 at 11:54:52 AM

Just in case you forgot that Hulk is cooler than everyone, I guess.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75429: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:30:38 PM

Cooler?

No he's like a raging fire. But possibly as mysterious as the dark side of the moon. We just don't know for sure yet.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#75430: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:32:48 PM

Is Thor as swift as the coursing river?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#75431: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:34:25 PM

By jove, you may have cracked it

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#75432: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:35:49 PM

No, wait.

Valkyrie's as swift as a coursing river.

Thor has all the force of a great typhoon.

Hulk has all the strength of a raging fire.

Loki is as extra mysterious as the dark side of the moon.

edited 12th Oct '17 12:41:12 PM by SonOfSharknado

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#75433: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:37:02 PM

[up]Seriously? Pack up, go home, you're through!tongue

edited 12th Oct '17 12:37:21 PM by kkhohoho

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#75434: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:37:04 PM

You mean mysterious, right?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#75435: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:37:09 PM

By juno, I think you've cracked it for realsies this time.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#75436: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:38:42 PM

I don't know how to do strike-through formatting on here. :P

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#75437: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:39:27 PM

[[ strike: ]]

edited 12th Oct '17 12:39:47 PM by VeryMelon

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#75438: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:39:48 PM

Should just be [[strike: something]] to make something

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#75439: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:40:46 PM

Time you learned

Like This

edited 12th Oct '17 12:41:12 PM by Ultimatum

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#75440: Oct 12th 2017 at 12:41:22 PM

There. I fixed it. :p

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#75443: Oct 12th 2017 at 5:16:50 PM

[up][up]Stormbringer. Turns out Thor was Beta Ray Bill in our hearts all along.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#75444: Oct 12th 2017 at 7:18:30 PM

[up] (3) Thor without a hammer is just... weird.

But if Thor: Ragnarok’s Tessa Thompson has anything to do with it, that’s not going to stand. During a recent press conference for Taika Waititi’s much anticipated Thor film, Thompson regaled us with a rad story about confronting Kevin Feige with the possibility of an all-female Marvel movie. Recently I marched up with a couple other women in Marvel and were like, to Kevin, ‘what if there was a movie with some female superheroes?…like all of them?'” Thompson explained. According to Feige, Tessa’s dream could become a reality. “It’s a pretty amazing moment to be somewhere and have your shoulder get tapped and every female hero we have is standing there going, ‘How ’bout it?’ And I said, ‘Yes,'” recounted the head of Marvel Studios.

So if Feige says it’s (maybe) happening, then what would that movie look like? Once again, the hero none of us deserve came to our rescue. “There’s a precedent for it in the comics, right? With the Lady Liberators,” Thompson responded, giving hope to female comic fans everywhere. But who are the Lady Liberators and how could they come to life on the big screen?

Or we could make everyone happy and do a:

  • Captain Marvell film
  • Black Widow film
  • An Ironheart film and have Riri Williams take the reins from Sta... okay that's not going to happen.
  • Jessica Drew film
  • Gwenpool film
  • Squirrel Girl film
  • Squirrel Girl film
  • Hawkeye solo with Kate Bishop

edited 12th Oct '17 7:24:49 PM by Soble

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#75445: Oct 12th 2017 at 7:22:15 PM

Beta Ray Bill is an alien who became legendary when he lifted Mjolnir. That's his whole thing; being someone other than Thor who is Worthy. Odin created a hammer for him to have as his own called Stormbringer.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#75446: Oct 12th 2017 at 7:24:21 PM

He's also a horse skull faced alien who had an almost relationship with Lady Sif

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ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#75447: Oct 12th 2017 at 10:23:16 PM

[up][up][up]

If at some point there were some Avengers movie with an all-female line-up, I'd like it if it looks something like this:

  • Captain Marvel
  • Ms. Marvel
  • She-Hulk
  • Singularity
  • Kate!Hawkeye
  • Wasp
  • Spider-Woman

I'll be willing to let America Chavez in, just to have variety in power levels.

No Riri tho.

DEFINITELY no fucking Riri Williams.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#75448: Oct 12th 2017 at 10:27:26 PM

Jesus did Riri kill you guys' family members?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#75449: Oct 12th 2017 at 10:29:15 PM

Everything I've heard about Riri Williams just makes me feel like any hate towards the character is overblown as hell.

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#75450: Oct 12th 2017 at 10:40:25 PM

I'd say yes for a Riri Williams appearance then! The Iron Man name can go on in many ways regardless of race or gender.

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