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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
But what would a Danny that decided to go with the Hand be like?
Edit: Another page-topper, I see. This one is too paltry. I'll throw it back.
edited 5th Oct '17 12:34:46 PM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Naturally Danny believes in Kun-Lun...he is after all constantly repeating that his job is to fight the Hand and doesn't doubt for one second that him being the Iron Fist is some sort of calling, even when he abandons his calling, he is still following his teachings in a lot of things. Colleen is the same with the Hand. Yes, she helps Danny to escape, but that doesn't necessarily translate in her abandoning the Hand...after all Colleen has her own moral code, she isn't a food soldier but someone who was manipulated into believing that she was doing good by leading street kids to the hand. She wouldn't imprison someone innocent, and she owes it to Danny to let him go after he rescued her life and she lead him to the compound. It's really not that complicated.
The problem is that the show hadn't earned the benefit of the doubt from many people. They'd done such a poor job of properly fleshing out character motivations, and had characters doing random things at random times for seemingly no real reason, and the last third of the show goes overboard with the whole "Colleen is madly in love with Danny" thing overall, that many people cannot help but interpret her turn as being because of "the power of love."
Yes, it does. It literally translates to her abandoning The Hand. She helps Danny escape, and then leaves. No attempt to explain herself to Bakuto, no demanding of explanations or big "I did what had to be done," speech or battle for the soul of the organization. She help Danny and then flees for her life, writing off The Hand as a lost cause by her actions.
There is no greater indication of abandoning a way of life than literally leaving it. The same thing Danny did when the path to Earth opened in K'un Lun and Danny was just like, "Great! F*ck y'all and everything you stand for, I'm gone."
And she did that for no other reason than because she thinks Danny's just the most swell guy.
edited 4th Oct '17 12:09:37 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Alright, two news dumps:
https://www.avclub.com/marvel-and-netflix-pull-the-punisher-from-ny-comic-con-1819157426
Marvel is pulling a panel focusing on The Punisher at the New York Comic Con due to the recent mass shooting in Las Vegas.
http://ew.com/tv/2017/10/04/marvel-luke-cage-season-2-iron-fist-photo/
And Danny Rand is gonna guest star on Luke Cage, apparently. Kinda looking forward to that, not gonna lie. Jones played off of Colter fairly well on Defenders, under the Luke Cage showrunners he might be even more bearable.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?It also appeared briefly in Doctor Strange, carried by Nico's mom.
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◊. It's based on a famous painting from the 18th century.
Why are Thor and Hulk having mansex while everyone watches and Loki sells tickets? I mean, they could be wrestling, but Hulk is sensually squeezing Thor's ass so I don't see it.
Hela in particular seems to really be getting in on this.
edited 6th Oct '17 7:54:34 AM by TobiasDrake
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I love Odin's look of concern back there. It looks like he's wondering what the hell went wrong with his son.
I also believe that Doctor Strange is recording all this.
edited 6th Oct '17 8:24:12 AM by fredhot16
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.

Agreed. This was a much better reveal than Diamondback being Luke's brother was. It's actively benefits the narrative in two ways.
Finding out that, holy shit, one of your closest confidantes was a ninja this entire time feels like the first legitimate ninja surprise in Netflix Marvel's history.
If only she wasn't such a dumpster fire of a character that it's still difficult to actually credit the show finally featuring an Asian ninja who isn't mindlessly evil.
That part, I don't agree with.
Colleen believes in The Hand because they took care of her, yes. But then she turns on them almost instantly, not because she was given a legitimate reason to realize that they'd led her astray, but for love. She acts as all shallow love interests do, abandoning everything she's ever cared for and believed in because she has sexy feelings toward the hero's throbbing whiteness.
Like many things about Colleen, her loyalty to The Hand isn't actually here to provide any interesting or useful insight, but to instead create temporary drama for her primary role as Danny's woman-shaped sex object.
As for Danny himself, the issue is that he doesn't believe in K'un Lun. Not even a tiny bit. We have never been given any reason to believe he cares even the tiniest bit about K'un Lun. If everyone there died tomorrow, he'd be like, "Sucks," and then move on with his life; that is the Danny we've been presented.
He left K'un Lun at the first chance he got. All of his memories of the place are horrible. He betrayed his master's teachings without hesitation. He is, right now, insisting to Davos that he's never returning to K'un Lun. Danny stole their awesome superpowers and then left, intending to never see any of those people again. There's no reason to believe they have any strong influence on his worldview at this juncture.
Danny rejected The Hand not out of loyalty to K'un Lun but because it's the generically Good Guy choice to make. When tempted by the villain, the hero rejects it. That's the problem of Danny's character; he just floats between being an asshole that the narrative bends over backwards to defend and making Generic Good Guy choices because he's The Hero and that's what heroes do.
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