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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
No because Scar is just a power-mad A-hole who murdered his own brother, tried to kill his own nephew twice (once when he was a child), and physically abused his sister-in-law. Zemo's whole motivation was about wanting to avenge the deaths of his family, and feeling like The Avengers were responsible for his home being destroyed.
MCU Zemo would LOATHE Scar most likely.
Sounds like Frank Grillo has something else coming up at Marvel
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Interesting, but not really sure how because Crossbones' last appearance was the epitome of No One Could Survive That!. Of course, his first appearance also ended that way, and he came back.
So, I'll either guess he shows up in flashbacks in Captain Marvel or becomes MODOK after Hydra salvages his head. Or I suppose possibly Machinesmith in a scenario where Hydra downloaded his mindstate.
edited 19th Sep '17 9:02:21 AM by Hodor2
One thing for sure, he made the best of the role he had. He is very memorable for a mostly minor character.
I like Hercules for Thor, though he might like The Lion King too...he would find himself in Simba after all. I wonder if Stephen would like Peter Pan since he is so obsessed with controlling time.
Are you guys kidding? Thor would hate Hercules. He probably knows the actual Hercules.
My various fanfics.But he hasn't shown up in the MCU yet, which is why I said probably. Why do you have to be so abrasive about everything?
edited 19th Sep '17 10:51:36 AM by SonOfSharknado
My various fanfics.I think Hawkeye would like Moana. It's about a powerless mortal in a realm of gods and monsters consistently saving the day through determination.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Guys, Clint has two children. He's probably been Stockholmed into Frozen being his favorite.
My various fanfics.- Stark: And now we come to the hard question. Steve has a lot of Disney to catch up on. Someone has to take him through a movie marathon. I can't do it because I would literally rather do anything else. Do we have any volunteers?
- Thor: What is this Disney that you speak of?
- Stark: ...alright, someone has to take Steve and Thor through the movies.
- Romanova: I'm washing my knives that day. <.<
- Barton: I'll do it.
- Stark: Which day?
- Romanova: Pick a day. Whatever day you want to do this, I'll be washing my knives.
- Banner: Well, I can't do it. These movies always make me so sad. You wouldn't like me when I'm sad.
- Barton: Guys, I'll do it. A Disney movie marathon? At my house, we call that Saturday.
First, realized I forgot to mention Rhoady. Was kind of thinking of either Mulan or Atlantis, because of the competent and dedicated military and former military characters in both works. Or similarly, maybe The Rescuers because of the heroic peacekeeping organization involved.
Was going to say that Loki might like The Lion King and would be a misaimed fan of Scar, but because of his Frost Giant heritage, Frozen definitely makes sense. That reminded me of something I was thinking after seeing the second Guardians movie. Was imagining Loki and Nebula hooking up as part of a "neglected evil sibling club" and revealing that he also has blue skin.
Getting Loki to watch The Lion King would be wonderfully funny. Resentful, 'brainy' dark-haired brother usurps throne of 'brawny' light-haired brother via manipulation?
edited 19th Sep '17 2:30:04 PM by Galadriel
Since I'm still waiting on my roommate to finish Wonder Woman, Iron Fist episode four!
Oh, hey, Danny plummeted to his death. Well, that was a quick episode. Series is over now, right? No? Rolling opening credits? Yeah, that seemed too easy to me too.
Waking up on a mysterious couch. This has got to be inside Harold's swanky pad because, like, there aren't a lot of people that would have even found Danny unconscious on a rooftop. It's not like Claire was passing by doing rooftop inspections for mysterious corpses and was like, "Hey, this one's alive!"
"You kicked me off the building?" "Of course I did. It's what you do when you see someone trying to break in." Wait, that was Ward that shoved Danny back out the window? Ha! Nice! Not only is he powered by the souls of forsaken children but he's already defeated the titular Iron Fist in mortal combat. Move over, Mephisto; Ward Meachum is coming for your throne.
"You died. I saw pictures." Pot, meet kettle.
"You're home now." This is a good move by Harold. Taking advantage of Danny's confusion to integrate himself emotionally, presumably for the sake of using Danny against The Hand. Man, I love this guy. In a series also populated by Too Dickish For Hydra Ward and the f*cking magic ninjas, Harold exudes competency and intrigue at every turn. I want this to be his show. He's the most interesting character in it.
"I fought the good fight for years, but I kept getting worse and worse." Ooo, is his connection to The Hand that he actually died and they brought him back? Because that would be a great way to build on what was established in DareDevil and actually flesh out the "undead" aspect of the undead magic ninjas.
Although if Harold winds up being another sympathetic Hand-affiliated character who coincidentally happens to be white, I may need to punch something.
"What they failed to tell me was that I had to die first." Woot! We are developing that aspect of The Hand!
Also, I'm not calling Harold another sympathetic Hand-affiliated white guy until I see where this goes, but it's certainly bothersome.
I assume that The Hand has magic ninjas listening to every word of this conversation as well, so I'm not sure how Harold thinks he's going to get away with appealing directly for Danny's help in this room.
"Drop all litigation against our friend here." Well, that was easy.
"Maybe we should give him his dad's old office while we're at it." "Yeah, great idea! Make it happen, Ward." Is this seriously how we're resolving the Danny's identity plot? Harold just makes Ward cave and accept that Danny's the heir? Even though he's still legally dead, mind you, and therefore can't inherit any of his nonexistent inheritance even without Ward's stonewalling? The show's really just going to ignore the obligation to legally resurrect Danny Rand and assume Ward giving up is a job well done, isn't it?
Also, I love how Ward's arguing against this even though he has basically no reason to. I mean, he's right when he points out that Danny spent the last fifteen years studying kung fu in a monastery and is not qualified to run a major corporation but we're led to believe Ward took over Rand when he was fresh out of high school so he has no room to talk. He just doesn't like Danny. Which is also a fair position to hold, given that Danny's such a piece of shit.
"I posted it online. People got to see what a badass you are and come for lessons." …uh, dude, you know these kinds of fights are illegal, right? Colleen could go to jail for being identified as a participant in underground cage fighting.
"Danny will continue the legacy of his father Wendell." So I guess we are just assuming that Hogarth got Danny legally resurrected offscreen overnight based on nothing more than a fingerprint on a piece of stolen pottery that hadn't even been analyzed yet. Okay, whatever. At least this portion of the show is behind us so my legal senses do not need to continue being assaulted by this show's flagrant disregard for the central machinations of its own plot.
I can proudly look forward to the magic ninjas and a punch-hobo trying to pretend to be a competent businessman. Oh, and more Harold! There is a bright spot!
"I was raised by monks in a monastery." Wow. He actually said that in his press conference. Man, I think I got whiplash from how hard the stock value of Rand just plummeted. The man who is to be majority shareholder just openly admitted on national television that he doesn't even have a basic education, doesn't know shit about anything, and is all but guaranteed to steer the company right into the ground.
I love that they're questioning him about the psychiatric hospital because it reminded me of how many cops should be assembled outside the door, waiting to take Danny into custody as soon as he sets foot outside this conference. If they don't just barge in and clap him in handcuffs in front of the press. Danny's a felon! I don't know how this show is supposed to share a universe with Luke, Jessica, and Matt because it clearly takes place in a lawless wasteland where all the police have spontaneously dropped dead.
The Protagonist-Centered Morality is so strong with this show that it actually mutated into Protagonist-Centered Legality.
"Kindness is the eternal law." I love how Ward just nopes right out of the conversation after Danny says that. Not a word. Just splits off and walks into his office, refusing to acknowledge Danny's monk quote. It's like the sheer force of goodness in that quote repelled him, banishing him to his office from whence he came.
"We should be able to squeeze you in sometime in the next two or three days." "Three days?" Welcome to upper management, dude.
I like Hogarth's explanation of what it means to be majority shareholder. She actually points out that he doesn't have a job and he isn't involved in the day to day workings of the company, which is an important point. A lot of shows and movies tend to assume that Majority Shareholder = CEO.
"Ease into things. To most of these people, you are a hostile takeover." Also accurate.
"We can save lives at $5 a pill and you want to raise the price?" "I know how this looks but this is how business is done." Danny's actually right here. Standard manufacturing markup standard is to charge double the cost to obtain. So the pill manufacturer charges Rand $5, which means Rand turns around and charges retailers $10, which turns into $20 that you pay as a consumer. Now, $20 per pill still seems weirdly expensive for life-saving medication - the writers probably didn't realize this kind of pricing is usually done per ten or per fifty. But that's beside the point.
The point I'm actually getting at is that Ward's 10x markup here means this medication is hitting shelves at $100 per pill. As bad as $20 seemed, that is prohibitively expensive. Shit like this is exactly what's wrong with the medical industry. That's going to turn into literally thousands of dollars for a pill bottle. I've got a bottle right here for a condition I came down with a couple months ago. Qty 60. That would be $6,000 coming out of the pharmacy if Ward had sold it, and the alternative wouldn't be to be in pain for a while, it'd be death.
Ward tries to make this seem like it's a nuanced thing, but it's not. This is Martin Shkreli-style evil business practice.
"We should sell at cost." No, dipshit, you should sell at a 2x markup. It's the way to do business ethically and still have a sustainable profit margin. Suggestions like that are exactly why the stock value at Rand is sinking like the Titanic right now.
"No one should make a profit off of the misery of others. It's wrong." Welcome to capitalism.
"This is ridiculous." "That may very well be but if Mr. Rand wants to put his foot down on this, we'll do it." Man, they are going to slap him with an injunction so hard he'll be able to get a killer spin-kick out of the momentum. It would be so easy to accuse him of not acting in the best interest of the company right now.
Oh, hey, Ward's Chronic Backstabbing Disorder medication is back. He had to take a pill after cyberstalking Danny. I wonder what those really are? Heh, maybe he's a Hand zombie too and those pills are how he stays animate. Ward Meachum crawled his way back from the torturous depths of Hell. Few noticed the change, except those closer to him who noticed that he seemed nicer than usual.
Oh, Joy gave Hogarth the bowl? That makes it slightly better, because it's admissable evidence if it's not stolen. Still not conclusive proof of identity, mind, but admissable.
The 2v1 cage match is pretty good, but Colleen goes for way too many headshots at the end there. Punching people in the head is generally bad form. Not because it's unsavory, but because the human skull is much stronger than the human fist. Colleen's tough, but her hands are going to break before this dude's skull does. As a martial artist, she should know this. The fight leading up to this was great, but this moment that's supposed to depict her as losing herself to rage or something just has her spontaneously devolving into a really shitty fighter instead.
Don't punch people in the head. Not without some kind of padding to protect your fists. Shit, Colleen knows this. So do the writers. Earlier in this fight, she headbutted one of the guys in the fist, breaking his hand. There's basically no excuse for this sloppiness of choreography.
"Everyone there said there was no way [an outsider] like me could do it." Miiiiiiighy Whiiiiiiitey.
Like, at least Dr. Strange went as far as to declare their monastery to be multicultural in an attempt to downplay the disproportionate importance of the white people present. It didn't solve anything, but an effort was made. Iron Fist is just unironically saying, "Yeah, Danny showed up and they were like, 'He is not one of us!' but then he wound up being Best Asian and they got to go f*ck themselves."
This show seems almost defiant in it sheer refusal to even try to make Danny anything but a Mighty Whitey. The trope is played so straight it hurts, and they do it in backstory. Like, it's no big deal. We're just to take it on faith that, yeah, the white kid rose to the top of the pecking order because of course he did, what else was he going to do? Not be awesome? He's white!
I keep waiting for the actual flashback episode that shows Danny's struggle in K'un Lun but I'm starting to suspect that it isn't happening. That this heavenly city of Chinese monks really does exist just to provide a cool superpower to our White Hero.
A bunch of Asian dudes are taking Joy away. This must be the magic ninjas. Dressed in business suits, which I appreciate because that blends in a lot better than their stupid ninja suits from DD. Seriously, that depiction was so aggressively racist I don't think it even ever realized that ninjas do not and never have dressed like that. That's a stage hand costume that became popularized for theatrical depictions of ninja because pretending to be stage hands allowed them to leap out and surprise the audience.
Like, everyone knows this. It's the Current Year, which automatically means I’m right. I can't be wrong if it's the Current Year.
Ooo, they have ono. Pretty shitty choice of weapon in a world where Glocks exist, but at least it's culturally relevant. Hey, dipshit ninjas, this is the United States. We literally have stores that sell guns. Nobody uses medieval weaponry here.
Danny powered up his Iron Fist much faster in this fight than he has in the previous episodes. He had to take some time to focus his chi in both attempts previously, but here he did it on reflex when he noticed that a dumbass ninja was going to try to chop his hand off.
Why that dumbass ninja was going for his hand is also confusing. His head was literally right there. It's a bigger target and would have been easier to strike. Unless these guys were under orders to avoid killing Danny, that was a weird choice.
The elevator fight scene is pretty cool. My favorite part of it is Joy trying to stay out of the way of all the violence that is rapidly filling up the tiny space.
Dammit, Ward missed his CBD medication. He's leaking the contents of the meeting to that reporter he was supposed to be taking care of. Prepare for Rand to take another stock market hit after this hits the papers tomorrow. Man, they'll be lucky to be selling stocks at a dime by the time Danny and Ward are finished.
"Leaving so soon?" Of course she is. She has her story. You're an idiot. Your compulsive need to be pointlessly evil just got in the way of what you were actually supposed to be doing here.
"Listen, don't give the front page to Karen. I've got a hell of a story tomorrow." Nice reference to Karen Page. Continuity, boom. But no, give the front page to Karen. Danny's stupid business decision that's terrible for the company but great for consumers is really good news, but good news doesn't sell newspapers. This story isn't front page material.
Oh, hey, I think Colleen actually broke a finger punching that guy's skull. I take back my complaint about the choreography for that detail. Good on you, fight scene guy.
I love the creepy stalker music that plays just before Danny shows up at the dojo. I describe it as Jurassic Park music. And it's totally in the right! Danny is a creepy stalker and the musical cue has every right to be freaked out that he's come for Colleen once more.
"What happened to you?" "That's why I'm here." Violent and dangerous people are pursuing me and I get such a thrill out of the idea of you being brutally murdered so whenever that happens, I always come straight here.
"Wasn't he stalking you?" Wasn't he stalking you? If Danny can find just one more woman to creep on for a few episodes, we can get her in here and this will officially be a support group. I wonder what Claire's doing right now?
"What do you know about the Golden Sands?" I have a better question. Where's that money you promised Colleen? A year's rent, I believe you said? She's engaging in illegal fight clubs out of desperation for her finances and you were literally just handed billions of dollars. I know she didn't actually hold up to her end of the bargain in letting you stay, but that's because you repeatedly violated her rules and f*cking attacked her students. The way I see it, you still owe her for services rendered.
I love how Danny just leaves Joy with Colleen. Like they have any kind of positive relationship whatsoever. Frankly, I don't even know what possessed her to open the door and let him in after the way he's behaved in the past. I guess we're just supposed to assume they're friends now. For no reason. Even though he still owes her money and is a complete asshole who invaded her home, undermined her authority, and attacked her students.
"I need to speak to the head of the Yang Shu Gonks." I love how the response to that is to silently filter out, admitting to this complete stranger who wandered in that he totally has the right place, rather than feigning ignorance about what he's on about. What if Danny was a cop? Oh, right, they don't exist in this corner of the universe.
So I guess these guys aren't The Hand. I take back my compliment about not wearing stupid ninja costumes. So I guess they were just using the hatches because all Asian people use obsolete martial weapons and kung fu in lieu of guns.
Wait, Colleen said they were Triads. That's the organized crime in China. And this leader guy's name, "Yang Hai Qing", in addition to sounded suspiciously like the I Ching, is clearly Chinese. So, this is The Axe Gang, a classic kung fu trope that is literally decades past its prime, originating as it does from China during its time under Japanese occupation.
I probably should have recognized that sooner, but I mistook them for The Hand so I thought those were ono that they were using.
Oh, look, Harold's in trouble with Gao. Who I swear was affiliated with a different organization than The Hand back in the first season of DareDevil. She was running the drug trade for Hell's Kitchen. Does The Hand deal drugs? Are there, like, drug ninjas who rappel down from the ceiling, slip your money out of your pocket, and leave opium in its place when you speak a code word?
Do they have smoke bombs made of cocaine?
"Where are we going?" If Gao wanted you to know that, why would she have made you put a hood on?
"Look, I can pop it back into place. Easy." Oh, her finger's just dislocated? I should assume she can pop it back into place just fine. She didn't become sensei of her own dojo by not knowing how to treat her hands after a punch goes bad.
But I guess having Danny mansplain kung fu to Colleen wasn't enough. We have to have this moment of her needing him to show her how to fix a dislocated joint in order to further establish her need for his dominance. Bleh.
"I still owe you rent for six months." "My answer is the same." The same as what? You took the deal but then had to kick him out for belligerently violating your terms. He still owes you the money. Like, if you sleep at a hotel and then go skinny-dipping in the fountain and wind up getting kicked out, you don't get a refund. He breached contract, he had to leave, but she is still entitled to her pay.
"That doesn't mean I don't want to know what was going on tonight." "Yeah. You and me both." Oh, f*ck you, Danny. You just told her that you solved the problem by reaching an arrangement with her kidnappers. You know damn well what happened and she knows that you know. You might as well have just told her to get f*cked and die for all the sentiment your blatant stonewalling communicated to her.
I mean, she probably won't hold it against him because only Ward's allowed to hold grudges about Danny behaving like a shithead, but it was still shithead behavior.
Wow. Gao letting Harold creep-stalk his daughter through a window for a bit in exchange for his services is supremely creepy in all the right ways. When Danny's being a giant creep, it's bad because we're supposed to like him, but this is a nice scene because its creepiness reflects on Gao, who is a sublimely spooky character.
And there's the ninjas. F*cking ninjas. The art of stealth is not walking around with giant wraps around your face. These guys literally pulled up to the Triads' restaurant and strolled in the front door. These are really bad ninjas.
So, this episode was better than the last. I really do wish Colleen could just leave the show and never come back, because both Danny and the writers treat her like crap. Harold continues to be awesome, the stupid inheritance plot has finally been unsatisfactorily resolved so we can move on from that, and the racist caricature ninjas are here. So that's neat.
I wouldn't call this one great, but it was a definite improvement at the very least. It'd be hard to sink lower than episode three.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It's not really that hard to have a wrongful death notice rescinded. Danny's only problem was that the Meachums, the only people in a position to legally prove his identity, were trying to do the opposite. We can assume he went through all the legal stuff offscreen without too much difficulty once they were actually helping him. Though, again Arrow did all this crap in half an hour, so it's kinda annoying. I know it's a different situation, but the writers chose a situation that would take four episodes to resolve instead of something simpler.
Considering Ward's smirk when he sees the paper and the fact that this is never brought up again, pretty sure this was Reverse Psychology. Ward complains to a reporter about his new boss putting morals over profits, the reporter doesn't stop and think that this news will actually make the company look great, and the minor problem with the pills gets turned into a boon for the company.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.Yeah, so for the most part we're all pretty sure that Gao's organization (presumably the Steel Serpent) and the Hand were originally going to be two different things based on how she and Nobu were written in Season 1 of Daredevil. But plans change, I guess. She's in the Hand now.
edited 19th Sep '17 9:07:06 PM by Unsung

I'm sure Peter would make them watch the whole Disney animated canon. Especially all the ones he missed.