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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#74676: Sep 16th 2017 at 5:38:45 PM

Actually a lot of people complained about Colleen

I remember as if it were this year on these very forums

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#74677: Sep 16th 2017 at 5:55:40 PM

Huh. That makes sense as to why I didn't see them, since I skipped all the spoiler-y posts as to not spoil myself.

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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#74678: Sep 16th 2017 at 5:55:57 PM

Were they? I don't really recall.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#74679: Sep 16th 2017 at 6:04:35 PM

Yes

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#74680: Sep 16th 2017 at 10:02:25 PM

I found the Colleen thing to be really stupid and forced myself. And it just made The Hand even more of a confusing mess than it was before.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#74681: Sep 18th 2017 at 7:37:37 AM

In lighter news:

We might get a trailer for Infinity War on September 29th!

(Please take it with a grain of salt, just in case.)

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#74683: Sep 18th 2017 at 8:38:20 AM

[up] Guess we can say she's confirmed for Avengers 4. Which isn't too surprising of course, but Brie Larson actually filming scenes makes it very tangible.

Right now my basic theory is that Captain Marvel won't be in Avenger's 3 outside of a cameo or post-credit scene. However regardless of whether she's shown on screen at the very end of the movie her existence will be revealed, possibly by Nick Furynote .

This would turn her solo movie into an extended flashback of sorts, so when she has a proper appearance in Avengers 4 the audiences are familiar with who she is and what she is capable of.

Also sidenote: If Carol Danvers has indeed been cut off from Earth since the 90s, I hope she and Peter Quill have a scene where they catch up on all the pop culture history that's happened since then.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74684: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:19:26 AM

Totally random question but: If each Avenger had a favourite Disney movie (from the main animated canon), which one do you think it would be?

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Brightness
#74685: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:22:07 AM

[up][up]Carol, Peter, Steve, and Bucky.

Tony will literally die laughing his ass off over how hard he's trolling them before that night is anywhere close to over.

edited 18th Sep '17 11:22:22 AM by TheAirman

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#74686: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:33:03 AM

The MCU clearly needs a Temporal Fish Out Of Water from every decade.

In the next Spdier-Man movie, impulsive scientists open a time capsule from the 70's only to accidentallly unleash... The Hypno Hustler!

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74687: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:35:02 AM

We thus far have 30's-40's, 80's, 90's, right? So we'd need 50's, 60's, 70's, 20's, 10's and 00's to get a full bingo of the 20th century.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#74688: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:36:41 AM

Swan Pride Lets see here:

Tony-The Emperor's New Groove.

Steve-Mulan.

Thor-The Lion King.

Banner-Beauty & the Beast.

Natasha-Frozen.

Clint-Big Hero Six.

Wanda-Lilo & Stitch.

Vision-Moana.

Sam-Princess & The Frog.

Rhodey-Oliver & Company.

Scott-Aladdin.

edited 18th Sep '17 11:37:20 AM by Punisher286

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74689: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:54:29 AM

[up] Okay, I get Steve for Mulan (though I would have pegged him for Dumbo, especially since that would be a movie he might have seen during his own time), but why Clint for Big Hero 6 and not for Robin Hood? I would have pegged Tony more for the Big Hero 6 type. And why Wanda for Lilo and Stitch (I can imagine that being Rockets pick if he actually knew Disney movies) and Vision for Moana? Have you put Sam to Princess and the Frog just because he is black?

[up][up] I think they will cover the 1960s as soon as they get the Fantastic Four back....

edited 18th Sep '17 11:56:36 AM by Swanpride

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#74690: Sep 18th 2017 at 12:03:40 PM

Tony would probably just find it funny. Wanda would be drawn to the whole "losing your parents tragically and having to try and move on and make new family members along the way" element of Lilo & Stich. Sam would probably love the music in Princess & the Frog. Clint would probably be drawn to the brother relationship in BH 6. And Vision would find the whole "realizing your place in the world/exploring new things" aspect of Moana interesting.

edited 18th Sep '17 12:05:24 PM by Punisher286

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74691: Sep 18th 2017 at 12:23:27 PM

[up] And why oliver and Company for Rhodey?

Mmm...would T'Challa prefer The Jungle Book or The Lion King?

edited 18th Sep '17 12:27:52 PM by Swanpride

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#74692: Sep 18th 2017 at 12:38:03 PM

Maybe Jungle Book because The Lion King might hit a bit too close to home for him.

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#74693: Sep 18th 2017 at 12:41:04 PM

The only acceptable answer is The Emperor's New Groove for everybody's favorite.

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#74694: Sep 18th 2017 at 6:26:26 PM

I could see Rocket reluctantly watching Bambi with Baby Groot, only for him to get hopelessly sucked in.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#74695: Sep 18th 2017 at 6:33:27 PM

I can almost see in front of me, Bambi's mom being shot and Rocket grabbing the screen, crying, shouting "OH YOU SON OF A GUN I AM GOING TO SHOOT YOU SO MUCH YOUR BULLET HOLES WILL HAVE BULLET HOLES" and then pulling out a gigantic machine gun and unloading at the screen whilst screaming in tears .

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#74696: Sep 18th 2017 at 8:08:28 PM

Scott Lang's favourite movie ought to be A Bug's Life, come on now. Or Toy Story. Vision's would probably be Pinocchio if Baby Ultron hadn't soured that for him.

I bet Hawkeye is a Fievel Goes West fan.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#74697: Sep 18th 2017 at 8:34:53 PM

[up][up] That's great. I can totally see that.

So my thoughts:

I actually think that Princess and the Frog might be something Steve would be interested in. He likes Jazz and it's set during the time period he grew up/was born, and I think he'd like something that was classic Disney but with modern/progressive racial and gender politics.

Can kind of see Hercules though too in terms of parallels to his relationship with Peggy coupled with this version of Hercules being similarly an earnest guy with super strength.

I'll say Frozen for Wanda because she'd definitely get the idea of having a power that's sort of a curse that needs to be controlled and can harm others, but which she's also tempted to revel in.

I'd be tempted to say The Incredibles for Tony what with the Objectivist themes. Granted, the movie arguably suggests that power through technology is inferior to actual superpowers, so he'd hate that, but he'd probably like the philosophical discussion in the movie while somewhat rooting for Syndrome.

Clint has got to be Robin Hood, right? Or I suppose Brave.

Was kind of thinking Tangled for Natasha in so far as she could really relate to being raised under manipulative and emotionally abusive circumstances on account of a power/ability and then escaping and living more of a normal life.

Going to say The Sword in the Stone for Thor, since he knows all about magical objects that detect for worthiness.

Besides the obvious shrinking-based movies, I'd wonder about Alladin for Scott, because of that whole idea of a noble thief going respectable.

For Banner, I'll say Monsters, Inc. because he'd like the idea that a monstrous ability/form might not be solely pernicious and could even be a Friend to All Children.

I know it's obvious but I kind of have to say The Lion King for Black Panther. Besides the African setting and feline theme, it's about a prince reclaiming his kingdom and so would fit him more than say Hercules or The Princess and the Frog, where there's a desire or choice to abandon that to live a normal life. T'challa is all about responsibility.

Finally, I'll say Fantasia: 2000 for Bucky. He probably saw the original Fantasia when it came out, and it would be comforting to see a more modern movie that wasn't dissimilar from what was probably one of the last movies he saw.

Edit- Forgot Vision. Pinocchio does seem the most obvious. And I guess if you count Spider-Man, him too. Not really sure. Because of the New York themes, I could see him liking An American Tail, although given the setting, that's probably more Steve's kind of thing. Maybe A Bug's Life given the emphasis on winning through cleverness.

edited 18th Sep '17 8:41:04 PM by Hodor2

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#74698: Sep 18th 2017 at 9:15:24 PM

Sam is a military therapist, so I think he'd have a soft spot for Frozen. He'd probably be able to go on for hours using Elsa as comparison to patients' problems he's met.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#74699: Sep 18th 2017 at 9:52:04 PM

Can't believe I forgot about Sam.

That is a good suggestion for him. I guess I'd also suggest Sleeping Beauty. Partly as a joke because of Steve and partly because the sidekicks- the Fairies- are the real protagonists.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74700: Sep 18th 2017 at 11:07:36 PM

Nah, Groot would love Pocahontas, and Rocket would hate every minute of it. And Aladdin is certainly the favourite movie of the Coat of Levitation. She is all infuriated with carpet.


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