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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Oh, man, what happens with Shades next episode is gonna piss you off fierce.
"This guy with a past criminal record was just picked up from a hostage-situation-turned-homicide, and several witnesses- including a police officer -can attest to his involvement in it, but sure, we'll grant him bail. Right out of the precinct, with no bail hearing, too. Why not?"
To be fair, all the Five Fingers seem strong enough to hurt him too. Hell, Madame Gao alone was kicking him and Jessica around like ragdolls, and while he suffered no lasting injuries he was pretty clearly getting hurt.
edited 5th Sep '17 9:53:47 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I don't mind people genuinely not liking Ao S after already watching it. I have a problem with those who don't watch it or only watch it in passing at best and keep sniping against it nevertheless.
It's a sad thing where something that had exposure when it wasn't great got lots of better but now doesn't have the same exposure any more, so people keep taking potshots at it because the only memory they have of it is the one from years ago when those potshots were current, even though they're don't make sense any more. It's what happened to Aquaman.
It happens a lot in this sort of thing, because people tend to remember characters as they were most memorably exposed to them, and with both comic books and tv shows most people might in to watch for a while but don't tend to stick with them for long periods of time.
Hey, I just made the villain a thousand times more coherent and intelligent than the writers did.
Eh, not really. In general, villains dancing around the issue of how to take down their hero by trying to gradually deconstruct him or her, sparing his or her life while tearing down everything that matters to him or her, tend to just come off as contrived at best and cowardly at worst.
Buffy The Vampire Slayer did it best with Angelus, because like many of the tropes Joss used in that series, it was stripped naked and laid bare. Angelus was "deconstructing" Buffy because he couldn't take her. He just couldn't. He only survives his first encounter because she's too emotionally compromised to kill him.
Targeting her loved ones wasn't just Angelus's M.O., it was also the only prayer of a chance he had of actually winning a fight with her, and he is called out on this repeatedly by previous villain Spike. And it still doesn't work, because even at her lowest moment, losing friends and family doesn't actually make her stop being a really f*cking good fighter.
- Angelus: No weapons. No friends. No hope. Take all that away and what's left? (thrusts sword at Buffy)
- Buffy: (Bare-Handed Blade Block) Me. (jams the hilt back into Angelus's nose)
That's what I always think of whenever a villain waxes poetic about how he's going to defeat an insurmountable foe by targeting his loved ones. It's a bad plan enacted by cowards that's doomed to fail, typically only put into a story to pad out the run time and give the villain an excuse for wanking off on his throne rather than actually confronting the hero.
Going after the hero's girlfriend instead of the hero just makes you look weak as a villain. It's not cool, it's not intimidating, it does not identify you as a sadistic and dangerous monster. It means you're a pathetic idiot who doesn't have a prayer of actually carrying this conflict and so you're forced to pick fights with harmless civilians instead. It's callow bullying.
Fortunately for Diamondback, he doesn't actually do this. He goes straight for the kill in every encounter with Luke, at least so far. Everyone just sorta talks like he's doing this for no reason. I guess the writer thought it'd give him more Villain Cred to pretend like that's his M.O.?
edited 6th Sep '17 7:11:27 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Ahem. "I'm Luke Cage! I'm Luke Cage!"
I think it's more accurate to say that Diamondback will hurt Luke any way he can, and if hurting someone else would hurt Luke too, he'd happily do it. This isn't just comic book villain stuff— criminals and totalitarian regimes use this all the time. If you want to draw your enemy out of hiding, put the squeeze on their loved ones. It's not an unwarranted concern that Luke worries that Diamondback will target the people he cares about, if and when the latter figures out who those people actually are. For now Diamondback is swooping around Harlem fucking with everybody for the lack of a more obvious target.
The operative words here are 'instead of'. An effective villain might still go after the hero's loved ones *in addition to* the hero. A fair fight isn't the only way to win. The average villain is a bully, and the average bully is a coward. That we see the villain's underlying weakness is usually by design.
Also, wrong thread for this but I couldn't resist: being weaker than the Slayer doesn't necessarily mean you're not still *terrifying* to other people, so I don't think Angelus going down like a chump whenever he fights the Slayer makes him any less effective as a villain. On the contrary, wasn't there actually an episode of Angel that established once and for all that Angel is the better fighter between the two? Angelus seems more cerebral and stealthy, while Angel is more physical— probably because Angel is more than just willing to risk his own life, he actively *wants* to suffer and sacrifice in order to atone.
If we wanted to tie this back to the MCU, I think that last point is a big part of what makes Daredevil so effective. He wants the pain, as much as if not more than the win.
" I enjoyed Garret's take down...especially since it gets extra point of SL Jackson being there"
I dont because they just is talk while Garret become more and more wacky, the guy was good when he was cold mastermind and he just went all comic book villian at the end, it also was weird because they short of talk until death...something kill garret.
Also, what the hell happen to him?
Anyway, I disagree with tobias, killing others to torment the hero is not a bad think in hitlseft because it put the villian in what it does best: hurting others real hard, otherwise is like sport film were the guy cheat for something meanless like between the hero.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I thought Bill Paxton played Garrett's slow decay pretty well, myself. He has a lot of superficial charm, but there's something off about him, and when he finally embraces supervillainous madness, it's more like watching the shell come off the nut than seeing an internal change in gears. All the early warning signs that could be safely ignored before become the whole of his character. And given what's happened to him, what he knows about the agency he works for, the way he sees his own abandonment and the body horror of having known he was living on borrowed time for decades, you could sort of see how he ended up where he is.
Compounded with Kree space alphabet madness as well, true.
edited 6th Sep '17 8:48:17 AM by Unsung
Good news, everyone! According to British Airways
◊, Wakanda is a real place!
It's a (differently spelled) city in Illinois
, and in fact the link notes that the supposed Native American source name was originally and possibly more correctly spelled like the fictional African country.
edited 6th Sep '17 2:11:41 PM by Hodor2
The action figures for the movie have the first look at Killmonger's
Black Panther suit
. Not digging it but maybe it'll look better in the actual movie.
Also I'm gonna cry if this isn't really in the film
.
edited 7th Sep '17 11:28:16 AM by comicwriter
No plans for Ms. Marvel in the Inhumans show
, which honestly feels like dodging a bullet at this point.
Since I am currently linking Brows held high stuff....this vid is certainly worth discussing:
"But the way Garret went out was the best thing ever! You think that you are seeing the usual cheesy set-up for season 2, but nope, he just blows up. Still makes me smile every time I see it! "
Yeah I hate that, I feel the typical "we are not serious, just cleaver and ironic, *wink* *wink*" it just feel Garret drop A LOT of menacing nature at the end, just taking and taking while they take him down.
Anyway, I have seen a lot of people complaing about how Marvel turning inhuman into the X Men and all....and really Im not that annoyed because of it, I feel more natural because it have some sort of explanation rather than just "suddenly, mutants!" lying down for whatever reason.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Originally it was because the proliferation of nuclear weapons and energy specifically. The earliest mutants appearing (publishing wise, not in-universe timeline) could often trace their origin to their parents being involved in nuclear research. Or explosions.
Of course then the number of mutants ballooned past reasonable explanations like that and you started getting mutants that showed up way before nuclear research was a thing so it was mostly downplayed but you still do get some Children of the Atom stuff.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIn X Men First Class Xavier has a off-hand line mentioning the current ("current" meaning the 1960's) surge of mutants in the world was likely a result of the multitude of nuclear experiments in recent decades.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

The best part about the criticism that nobody really has a decent counter to Luke's abiltiies is (Defenders spoilers) that that never really goes away. Even in the ensemble against the Hand, there's very little our ancient cabal of magical wizard/ninjas can do besides hit him with swords and shoot guns at him, both of which don't work. They have exactly one weapon to fight him with, Elektra, and because she's narratively tied to Matt they only ever even square off on rare occasions.
In fact, if Luke's series keeps adapting his 70's bad guys (granted, those are really his only bad guys) but writing him as more or less the modern version of the character, that might keep being a thing for a while. Luke also runs into the problem of most characters capable of slapping him around also not really fitting into his series' tone, but I'm sure the writers can figure out a way around that.
edited 5th Sep '17 9:53:33 PM by KnownUnknown