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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#74226: Aug 31st 2017 at 6:21:57 PM

It was a beneficial survival behavior up until they met someone who thought a living creature would make a good prop microphone.

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#74227: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:37:11 PM

Nah, the little bastards deserved a good kickin' for trying to attack his ankles. It's self-defense at that point. I would have no qualms about kicking a rat if it jumped at my leg with vicious intent.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#74228: Sep 1st 2017 at 10:20:54 AM

A look at the new Ant-Man suit and Wasp from a charity video some of the Avengers 4 actors filming did for Texas. Wasp's outfit definitely has gold on it.

edited 1st Sep '17 1:38:36 PM by comicwriter

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#74229: Sep 1st 2017 at 12:55:39 PM

So I finally got a chance to finish Defenders.

MEGA SPOILERS

I knew that Bakuto had to die at Colleen's hands. It was the only resolution to their arc. Also, is it wrong of me to celebrate Misty losing her arm? :P

Even though I knew Matt had to survive to be in Daredevil S3, part of me really did consider that maybe he died there, and would be replaced with a Legacy Character or something. Speaking of survivals, I hope Madame Gao survived too. The Hand is hopefully done for good, but she could keep on trucking as a badass independent villain if she's still alive.

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MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#74230: Sep 1st 2017 at 1:46:52 PM

[up][up] Okay. So it's black and gold, which makes sense considering her namesake, and has red accents to match Ant Man, her partner. Makes sense to me.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#74231: Sep 1st 2017 at 2:30:24 PM

"Steve isn't anti-Authoritarian at all. He has no problems whatsoever to follow reasonable leaders. "

I have a question of what Cap consider a good and resonable leader.....

anyway, Im going to watch guardian of the galaxy 2, any thing I must know in advance?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74232: Sep 1st 2017 at 2:36:28 PM

Did you watch vol. 1?

If so, you don't need much.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74233: Sep 1st 2017 at 5:44:15 PM

I am starting to think that I am colorblind...to me this suit still looks grey.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#74234: Sep 1st 2017 at 6:01:43 PM

Might need to adjust your monitor settings, too.

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#74235: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:12:11 PM

I'm not seeing any gold whatsoever, either.

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#74236: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:15:18 PM

I can sorta see how it might be a really, really dark gold. But it's so dark that it might as well be gray.

Maybe it will turn up better after the effects studio's finished touching things up.

edited 1st Sep '17 7:15:53 PM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#74237: Sep 1st 2017 at 7:18:32 PM

It does look dark gold to me, but I can see how people would think grey.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#74238: Sep 2nd 2017 at 6:14:38 AM

Probably one of the best MCU fan vids I've ever seen. Dat editing.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#74239: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:51:10 AM

This is... disturbingly fitting.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74240: Sep 2nd 2017 at 1:34:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sxqdfLzkFQ

Cinema Wins weights in on Got G Vol 2...I usually wouldn't link it, but this one has a number of interesting observations concerning the technical aspect of the movie and the use of the music.

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#74241: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:50:27 PM

Luke Cage, Episode Eight!

So, just like I expected, Claire's here to patch Luke up after he's inevitably shot with the Judas Bullet; there's no reason why the Judas Bullet should work, mind. It's just an alien-tech super-bullet that gets to ignore his powers because reasons.

Not sure why Diamondback's thugs in the car aren't shooting Claire too, just to be thorough. They could just use a normal bullet on her. She is clearly attempting to administer medical aid to Luke so, like, pop her too and this whole thing's over and done.

Alternately, they could try to get another Judas Bullet into Luke to make sure he stays down. But popping Claire feels like the cheaper option. A little bit of thoroughness could go a long way right now.

"No hospitals. I can't be in the system." Because that worked out so well for Scarfe two episodes ago.

The bullet's still inside Luke. So is it going to detonate at some point? The Judas Bullet we saw being demonstrated drilled through the target's armor and then exploded. Luke should be dead right now from shrapnel tearing apart his not-indestructible internal organs.

And now the lazy idiot who couldn't be arsed to pop Claire shoots out the ambulance's tires because…I guess he finished his really nice cigar and then suddenly remembered he had a job to finish. The way he emerges from the shadows implies that we're supposed to be intimidated by him, so I'm going to guess this is Diamondback in person. Not making a good first impression, though.

"Somebody took a shot at us. You guys gotta get out of here. Gooo." Wow. Could the ambulance driver's acting be any stiffer?

"Can you dig it?!" Oh, I'm going to hate this guy.

"Caaaaaarl. Come out and plaaaaaaay!" Yep. I am definitely going to hate this guy. He's the Ax-Crazy psychopath as understood by comic book writers, which is almost universally a stupid character in every depiction, but is especially difficult to pull off in live-action. He's trying to go Full Joker. You never go Full Joker.

"To make this stick, we'll need a patsy." I thought you guys already decided to pin it on Luke last episode. Is that not what happened? Because I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

"Actually, it's Power Man. That's what Pop used to call me." I love that Luke's shitty superhero name keeps coming back up.

Oh, good, Priscilla's in with Mariah. Misty really is the Jim Gordon of this precinct, isn't she? The one good cop.

"The bullet drilled into your skin and exploded." Oh, it did detonate. He just has unbreakable organs too. That's new.

"You ain't worried about Luke Cage?" He's really not. Shades feels confident that things are under control, and that's interesting. When he first saw Luke's invulnerability, he actually seemed more intrigued than intimidated. He's definitely a fun villain.

"When we get through this, I'm still arresting yo' ass." What the hell, Misty? She just pointed out that the flipped ambulance was a pretty strong alibi herself. She has no reason to actually believe the bloody gloves prove Luke was somehow in two places at once.

"You're slowing me down, babygirl." This is another thing villains always do in media that's just stupid. "I don't have time to spend the half-second it takes to pull a trigger. See you later!" It literally took longer to actually say that than it would to kill Misty. So dumb.

"Besides, Luke likes you. I'll hurt you later." Also dumb. This would be a better scene if Misty fought back against Probably Diamondback and then Luke intervened before the fight had a chance to end conclusively. There is basically no good reason for him to have drawn out shooting her for so long and then spontaneously decided he's just not gonna 'cause f*ck you, that's why.

"Go. End this." Are we all just forgetting that Luke has shrapnel in his gut and a closing window of opportunity to remove it? Because I seem to recall that being a thing. Luke specifically said this needed to be taken care of quickly.

And don't think the conveniently noticeable laser sight to give away the sniper's target had slipped my notice, either. This guy is like every stupid action movie cliché rolled into one.

"Stryker?" Okay, so that's his name. Stryker.

"Willis?" "I prefer Diamondback." And yep, he is Diamondback. Because of course he is. He has the stupid super-bullets.

And then Diamondback tumbled from the balcony and cracked his collarbone on one of the chairs. So he's dead, right? Because that totally broke his spine.

No, show. He does not get to just stand right back up after that fall. You're being stupid.

And then Luke threw him through the double doors and he cracked his skull against a column. So. He's dead, right? Because that totally broke his spine.

How is Luke coughing up blood when we've already established that his soft tissue is just as invulnerable as his skin? Those hits to his wound shouldn't actually be able to do anything.

"She'll talk to me, I promise. We have rapport." ^.^ Nice Scarfe callback.

"You gave Luke an alibi; that's accessory to murder." Seriously, what the shit, Misty? You're supposed to be smarter than this.

And then Misty physically assaulted Claire. Great. From Jim Gordon to just another shitty cop in a superhero story in the span of a single episode. This episode should be called "The Character Assassination of Misty Knight".

No, show, Diamondback does not get to just stand right back up after that impact. You're being stupid.

"CARL!" God, this idiot can't just take advantage of a clear surprise element when he has it, can he? I swear, every single action movie cliché….

"I AM your brother!" Every. Single. Cliché.

Well, what can I say about Diamondback? He actually poses a physical threat to Luke, which is a step up over Cornell. He's also a much shittier character in every respect, at least thus far. This guy oozes stupid out of every pore any time he's onscreen.

I was going to compliment Misty for having the most interesting plotline in the series but this episode thoroughly sabotaged her character. It's like someone realized that she's basically the best character and couldn't figure out how to make Luke and Claire more interesting so they settled for abruptly making her shittier instead. What the hell?

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#74242: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:54:49 PM

Oh, you are going to hate Diamondback, my friend. I've been waiting for this moment for so long.

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#74243: Sep 2nd 2017 at 9:56:43 PM

Question: You seem to not be enjoying anything here, so why are you forcing yourself to watch it?

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#74244: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:00:27 PM

Oh, good, Priscilla's in with Mariah. Misty really is the Jim Gordon of this precinct, isn't she? The one good cop.

Who's Priscilla, again? The new captain, right?

Because if that's who you're talking about, then no, she isn't. I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

edited 2nd Sep '17 10:00:45 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
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#74245: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:01:15 PM

Yeah, she's the new captain. The one who gives Misty a hard time for being suspicious of Mariah.

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#74246: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:04:09 PM

Ah, okay.

Well, she's not actually corrupt, so...

Oh God! Natural light!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#74247: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:12:05 PM

Yeah, they were just in the same sorority together (they're sorors, as she says, in a line which I had trouble hearing at the time), and Priscilla is willing to play politics, because that's what it takes to get her job.

Yep, Diamondback sucks. Having someone who could pose a physical threat to Luke was something that the show needed, but I wouldn't say that's enough to make up for Diamondback's other shortcomings. They should have never combined Coldfire and Diamondback into the same character. The Diamondback that Shades describes in the first half of the season is a completely different character from this guy.

And I hate the idea that you introduce this character who's bulletproof and introduce a bullet that can hurt him in the same season. I mean, Mariah just listed the various other methods you could try not three episodes ago, having the equivalent of a Kryptonite bullet immediately just seems like lazy writing.

edited 2nd Sep '17 10:22:54 PM by Unsung

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#74248: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:13:13 PM

Apparently those Judas Bullets appeared in Agents of SHIELD though. So yay, continuity I guess.

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#74249: Sep 2nd 2017 at 10:16:29 PM

Luke's Netlfix power-set is not so much "his skin is unbreakable plus super-strength" and more "his entire body is really, really tough, his skin slightly more so than the rest of him plus super-strength".

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#74250: Sep 3rd 2017 at 1:04:45 AM

The Judas Bullets appeared in Ao S after Luke Cage introduced them, so, yeah, Ao S still does all the work when it comes to connecting the universe.


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