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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#73501: Jul 26th 2017 at 4:41:48 PM

The films will acknowledge LMDs if they ever get an idea for a way to use them. Which they will do regardless of whether that idea gels with what was established in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Notably, the films technically already acknowledged them with the first Avengers film's gag, "You have reached the Life Model Decoy of Tony Stark."

Despite the LMD arc of S.H.I.E.L.D. establishing that they were being created for the first time, they were able to avoid a continuity error by stating that the project was a revival of an old Cold War thing S.H.I.E.L.D. had once tried to do. Thus, functioning LMDs are new, but the concept is old enough for Stark to be making jokes about it.

The showrunners work very hard to ensure that their stuff doesn't inadvertently contradict the film team's work. Rest assured, the film team will not return the favor.

edited 26th Jul '17 4:43:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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#73502: Jul 26th 2017 at 5:14:40 PM

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David will take on the role of Ernest Vigman, a caustic municipal employee who butts up against the hopeful energy of the new warriors. He next appears in Hulu's Future Man and counts OWN's recently renewed drama Greenleaf and Community among his credits. The actor starred as Sgt. Major Donald Cody on Fox's beloved Enlisted, which was inspired by showrunner Biegel and his brothers.

Didn't even mention Gargoyles.sad

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#73503: Jul 26th 2017 at 5:19:09 PM

Huh. My hype for New Warriors is surprisingly increasing.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73504: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:54:54 PM

Dude I love Keith David. Was hoping for him to end up in the movies somewhere after all the Ant-Man and the Wasp announcements, but between this and Squirrel Girl I'm suddenly a lot more hyped for New Warriors.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#73505: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:56:50 PM

[up][up][up]Well, they didn't mention Captain Anderson, Spawn, or Keith the Handyman (which I didn't know was a thing), either. The man keeps busy.

edited 26th Jul '17 6:57:33 PM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73506: Jul 26th 2017 at 7:46:24 PM

[up]He was also the first person to voice Black Panther.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73507: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:54:48 PM

I hope this doesn't mean we won't get him in the movies someday.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73508: Jul 26th 2017 at 9:04:13 PM

Just five more seasons of The Cape and he can show up as Max Malini.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73509: Jul 26th 2017 at 9:05:17 PM

Have we ever had cases of "played a character on the shows first, then the movies?"

I know we've had the reverse, where Samuel L. Jackson was Fury in the movies first before appearing on AOS, and Alfre Wodard was cast as Miriam Sharpe before being Mariah Dillard.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73510: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:50:59 PM

Some interesting stuff about M'Baku.

The Wakandan nation is made up of several tribes, each with its own tribal leader. Winston Duke plays on of those leaders, M’Baku, in Black Panther

“Well, M’Baku is the charismatic young leader of the Jabari tribe,” Duke tells Comic Book.com at Comic-Con International: San Diego, “and the Jabari tribe is one of Wakanda’s main tribes. They’ve removed themselves from the mainstream Wakandan society and they don’t really believe in the importance of vibranium, so the movement of the country forwards that puts them at odds with how the country is ruled and everyone else, for the most part.”

I'm glad they're keeping that aspect. The different tribes having different viewpoints and beliefs makes the setting feel fully realized.

edited 27th Jul '17 5:51:32 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73511: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:56:27 PM

I wonder if they're going to incorporate the religious extremism and terrorism angle into the Jabari tribe's backstory or if they're going to make it entirely politically motivated. The former was a pretty interesting plot element but they might be holding back on it either because they think it's too controversial, or because they want to save it up for a sequel that focuses on M'Baku more heavily and introduces Queen Divine Justice.

edited 27th Jul '17 5:58:42 PM by AlleyOop

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73513: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:03:20 PM

Have we ever had cases of "played a character on the shows first, then the movies?"

None that I can think of, but Keith David's in a unique spot of being known as a live actor but also having a strong niche as a voice actor. I would be surprised if just his voice appears in a role at some point in the future, or at least I hope so.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#73515: Jul 28th 2017 at 11:29:33 AM

Hmm. So this guy thinks Ultron was preparing to fight Thanos then?

It does put the doesn't know the difference between saving the world and destroying it line in a totally different context. Maybe when Wanda looked into Ultron's head, he didn't really see the Stark part of him, but something else.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#73516: Jul 28th 2017 at 11:32:34 AM

Just a thing here, didnt wanda get her power by experimenting with mind gem?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#73517: Jul 28th 2017 at 11:34:08 AM

Yeah. it was the experiments on the Gem that gave both her and Pietro her powers.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#73518: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:29:17 PM

I dont think ultron know about thanos, is more that he act like Tony, who wittness the full scale of the chitauri and was in space for a moment, in Many way that stick to him.

One can said ultron represent a lot of of Tony psique until that moment: his fear something out there waiting to strike, the need for a powerfull weapon(ultron is pretty much is own suit concept expand into global scale), the idea steve is a Soldier without a war and dangerous for it,etc.

Ultron is Tony worst fears, since the first movie to AOU.

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#73519: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:34:45 PM

I thought Ultron preparing the world for Thanos was the intended reading. He keeps going on about how there's a disaster coming. So he will "save" the world by burning it to the ground and building a completely different one. Congratulations, the specific rock in space on which he lives on is safe.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#73521: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:46:32 PM

[up][up]I dont think he knew about thanos, just that someone will invade earth again.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73523: Jul 28th 2017 at 3:48:37 PM

Weren't they just starting to really push Shang at the time? Or maybe there was interest in it as a martial arts movie, which had a bit of a comeback at the time.

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#73524: Jul 28th 2017 at 4:16:37 PM

How much Ultron is consciously aware of Thanos is unclear. Thanos is strongly implied to be at least partially responsible for his creation and subsequent rampage, but there's no real indication in the film that their connection runs more than one direction.

edited 28th Jul '17 4:16:59 PM by TobiasDrake

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#73525: Jul 28th 2017 at 4:19:46 PM

At the very least, Ultron does not appear to be aware that Thanos was responsible for his creation. He's seemingly aware of an incoming extraterrestrial existence, but does not claim himself to be either serving Thanos or rebelling against him.


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