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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#73477: Jul 25th 2017 at 5:22:32 PM

(Psst. That's Cate Blanchett. (That's the joke.))

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73478: Jul 25th 2017 at 5:26:10 PM

D'oh. I can't tell my blonde actresses apart.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#73479: Jul 25th 2017 at 5:42:21 PM

My take on Caps arc in Ultron was that Ultron (and Wanda) assume that he's left his world behind in 1945, but the conclusion of the film were he assembles his own Avengers team proves that he has in fact built a new world for himself in the now.

Yes Steve looses a lot, but he's also very good at finding things. He's probably level with Hawkeye, who has lost his family, but always knew that would be a possibility.

Star Lord should probably be on the list...

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#73481: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:07:42 PM

Oh, nice. Sweet detail on that panther mask.

And the other mask. All the costumes in this look *awesome*.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#73482: Jul 25th 2017 at 9:55:02 PM

Since everybody and their dog's going to be in Infinity War, I really really want to see Tony and Bruce reunited. So he can tell Bruce in person that he jumped into bed with Thunderbolt Ross. You know. Since not telling a person details about past events is such a terrible betrayal and all.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#73483: Jul 25th 2017 at 9:58:57 PM

In fairness to Tony, he had no control over Ross being the one he had to deal with here, and he didn't think that opting out was an option.

Oh God! Natural light!
Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#73484: Jul 25th 2017 at 10:13:06 PM

Yeah Tony was essentially trying to make the best of a not good situation, and keep Ross under control to at least some degree. It's why I was far less sympathetic to Cap in that movie than many others were (well not the only reason, but one of them). And why Ant Man and Hawkeye badmouthing him made me want to see someone slap both of them.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73485: Jul 25th 2017 at 10:17:20 PM

I'd almost love something kind of like that scene from Earth's Mightiest Heroes where Cap (actually a Skrull) "reasonably" hands a seemingly out of control Bruce over to the government, and Bruce is merely despondent about it until he finds out that Ross is the one taking him (except in this context Bruce wouldn't be handed over, but would simply be trying to understand the current situation). But I also think MCU Ross would probably be more interesting going forward if he were at least trying to be genuine about no longer being the obsessed, power-hungry man he once was and a scene like that might undermine that.

Also, after someone here wondered if Peter Quill would be a fan of Cap, another scene I randomly thought would be fun was if they sidestepped the whole "fugitives that shouldn't logically be working with the actual Avengers" bit by having Peter be - of course - totally blind to the bad blood and history going on and okay Steve and His Astonishing Cohorts coming on board the Milano simply because it's Captain America. Cue the rest of the movie being a lot of awkward reconciliations - or non-reconciliations, as the case may be.

edited 25th Jul '17 10:18:34 PM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#73486: Jul 25th 2017 at 11:54:22 PM

I am not worried about the first four episodes of Defenders setting things up....that is what the first half of what is essentially an eight hour movie supposed to do, setting things up for the big pay-off. As long as there is a rewarding pay-off in the second half of the show, we should be good.

I also don't mind a slow pacing as long as there are good character moments in it.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#73487: Jul 26th 2017 at 5:52:23 AM

At this rate, the only MCU actor that won't appear in IW is Natalie Portman (which I don't think we will mind too much).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73488: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:16:08 AM

Yeah acting like Tony betrayed Bruce is a bit of a stretch. A really big bit of a stretch. You really can't compare working with one of your friends' old enemies to avoid a huge international incident to your friend protecting the man who murdered your family and then not telling you about it.

[up]Funny enough, she did indicate in more recent interviews that she might have softened her stance on not coming back. I still don't think she will, but I guess it's possible for a brief cameo.

edited 26th Jul '17 6:18:43 AM by comicwriter

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#73489: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:30:12 AM

  • Banner: Wait, you're working with ROSS?!
  • Stark: Yeah. I figured he had way too much power to be left unchecked and someone needed to be there to rein him in. Besides, as dangerous and destructive as he is, I think there might be a lot of potential there that could be put to use if we could just find a way to harness it.
  • Banner: ...you know what? That's hilarious. I approve.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#73490: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:34:01 AM

Unfortunately, I expect the writers to ignore any good reasons as to why Tony would work with Ross and will just have Banner act angry and betrayed at Tony doing something he had little to no choice in doing.

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#73491: Jul 26th 2017 at 8:04:12 AM

So he can tell Bruce in person that he jumped into bed with Thunderbolt Ross.

Top 10 anime betrayals.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73494: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:09:44 PM

Someone pointed out the Skrulls could conceivably give Marvel an out for bringing back Quicksilver in an Avengers sequel if they ever feel like it (not that I see the point).

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#73495: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:11:04 PM

When would Quicksilver have been replaced by a Skrull though?

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#73496: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:23:02 PM

wild mass guess There were a couple Skrulls inside Baron Strucker's research teamwild mass guess

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73497: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:38:46 PM

[up][up]That time he went to the toilet.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73498: Jul 26th 2017 at 2:57:14 PM

As annoying as Quicksilver's death was I really hope they don't abuse the Skrull replacement concept or else it's no different from the LMD issue.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73499: Jul 26th 2017 at 3:08:05 PM

Keith David has joined the New Warriors show. Awesome. Keith David is the shit.

edited 26th Jul '17 3:08:12 PM by comicwriter

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#73500: Jul 26th 2017 at 3:22:31 PM

[up][up]To be fair, the films aren't going to acknowledge LMD's anyway. I don't even say this to defend the idea of Skrull Quicksilver.


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