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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73251: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:03:51 AM

Ghost? Like, Iron Man's Ghost? evil grin

This makes me so happy that I don't even care about the lack of Ant-Man enemies and the use of yet another corrupt corporate baddie. I've wanted Ghost in the MCU for so damn long...

edited 23rd Jul '17 11:04:43 AM by KnownUnknown

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#73252: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:04:37 AM

Yes, fine, but the armor looked cool. His face is wayyyyy less scary without it. And tbh I liked the face from Avengers better- the Damion Poitier version.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#73253: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:17:50 AM

Yeah I have a hard time taking Thanos' new look seriously. Weirdly enough I keep getting distracted by just how bald he looks.

edited 23rd Jul '17 11:19:41 AM by LordVatek

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Funny but not helpful
#73254: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:19:37 AM

I binged the Infinity Etcs so I'm used to it by this point

And by the idea of Thanos as a farmer

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ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#73255: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:19:49 AM

Hey, Cap's rockin' the Big Boss look, I see.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#73256: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:21:19 AM

Do not even discuss Cap's face and beard. surprised I am so not ready for this.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#73257: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:22:11 AM

Comic Thanos does look cooler in his farmer get up than this Thanos without armor yeah [lol]

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#73258: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:22:58 AM

Well, Hulk was already around when Fury made his little speech, and while Black Widows and Hawkeyes status as Superheroes is arguable, they are around too, and at least Clack Widow has some really nifty abilities. And Shield already had the Index, though the people on it don't really qualify as hero.

But yeah, the reveal that there were more who didn't end up with the Avengers for one reason or another would fix something which is slightly wobbly regarding the early movies.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#73259: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:31:57 AM

I was thinking, with an older Wasp cast, it's likely that she's been living some sort of life within the quantum realm in the intervening years.

If that's the case, then what do we think that could imply? Could she of ended up in the microverse?

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#73260: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:33:36 AM

[up][up] There's also the Ancient One's mystical order. I kinda doubt that's something she threw together in the last few years.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73261: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:41:53 AM

[up][up]That's pretty much straight from the comics. There was a period of several years where Janet was thought dead after being blown up, but it just turned out she'd been living among the people of the Microverse.

edited 23rd Jul '17 11:42:01 AM by comicwriter

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#73262: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:43:18 AM

My general view of the MCU is that there was always weird things happening on the fringes, generally kept secret for one reason or another but the information was out there for those inclined to seek it.

It's just that the events of Iron Man and later the Avengers forced the general public to accept how crazy the world really was.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#73263: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:47:15 AM

[up] Exactly.

Even in the comics, when they claim that superheroes started with one particular character or event, ultimately they reveal there were a bunch of superheroes around before then (even if they're only Public Domain, legendary characters like Hercules or Merlin) who were unknown by the public or dismissed as urban legends.

TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#73264: Jul 23rd 2017 at 11:47:21 AM

@Explosive Lion: Damn, you beat me to it. As if Chris Evans didn't make me question my sexual orientation already.tongue

Thanos is so fucked if Big Boss gets his hands on a rocket launcher. One man on foot with a rocket launcher > everything else.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#73266: Jul 23rd 2017 at 12:23:14 PM

It occurs to me that now that Thor's hair is short and Steve's grown a beard, Marvel's three Chrises now look even more alike.

Oh God! Natural light!
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#73267: Jul 23rd 2017 at 12:26:50 PM

...quick, someone make a comparison photo of bearded Chrises.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#73268: Jul 23rd 2017 at 12:54:35 PM

[up][up]That's pretty much straight from the comics. There was a period of several years where Janet was thought dead after being blown up, but it just turned out she'd been living among the people of the Microverse.

That might be the best way to do it then. Alternate dimensions are already a thing in the MCU, and the microverse is just an alternate dimension that's accessed via shrinking.

And depending on what it's like in the precise area of the microverse she ended up in, they can do everything from her living a reasonably normal life (albeit very different from what she intended) in the intervening years to her living through hell for decades on end.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73269: Jul 23rd 2017 at 12:55:24 PM

Yeah I have a hard time taking Thanos' new look seriously. Weirdly enough I keep getting distracted by just how bald he looks

"Fun really isn't something one considers when balancing the universe. But this... does put a smile on my face."

Peter: 'And you, sir, are extremely bald.'

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#73270: Jul 23rd 2017 at 1:18:31 PM

Thanos: "Yeah, that looks kind of weird. Hela, may I borrow your fabulous headdress please?"

Hela: "NO!! Well ok I'll consider it IF you go out an kill everyone, and I do mean everyone."

Thanos: "DONE!!"

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#73271: Jul 23rd 2017 at 1:35:47 PM

That might be the best way to do it then. Alternate dimensions are already a thing in the MCU, and the microverse is just an alternate dimension that's accessed via shrinking.

See, I prefer the old school take on the concept, where if you shrink down small enough, then atoms or subatomic particles are as big as planets, with their own ecosystems and civilizations.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73272: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:01:20 PM

If you know enough about quantum physics it becomes a huge suspension of disbelief because particles aren't allowed to become any smaller than a certain size (the Planck length), and the "things" orbiting those particles have to be made up of particles themselves, which would also have to be below the Planck length to orbit around subatomic particles (unless the implication is that shrunk Janet is herself a sentient subatomic particle herself, or can somehow breathe when oxygen atoms are bigger than her entire body).

Another issue is that the idea of atoms being made of up of "orbiting" particles like the Bohr model has been outdated in favor of the electron cloud for over half a century. Therefore alternate dimensions actually become more believable than a second tier of matter that's somehow allowed to be smaller than the smallest forms of "normal" matter can get. Invoking "atoms as planets" has a campy retro charm to it but MCU is leaning towards contemporary scifi.

edited 23rd Jul '17 2:05:27 PM by AlleyOop

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#73273: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:17:35 PM

It shows the sort of person I am that the one thing I latched onto is the fact that Steve seems to be wearing a shield harness even though he shouldn't have a shield; it's not even in that poster.

And I don't like Natasha platinum blonde, but if she's been living in hiding for the last couple years it makes sense she'd dye her trademark red a different color.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73274: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:32:21 PM

I wonder if there's something contractual where Scarjo asked that she no longer be required to dye her hair red, which is strange because the red hair is a pretty damn iconic visual aspect of Natasha Romanova's appearance.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#73275: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:40:06 PM

Is it worth watching Iron Fist if only to get caught up for the Defenders?


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