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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#73201: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:45:54 PM

The Shiar are supposed in X-Men: Dark Phoenix. Despite the series never even hinting at a world larger than Earth.

At this point I feel as if Marvel Studios just don't have the plans for the F4 or X-Men until late Phase 4, otherwise they wouldn't be making these little deals. Too bad, I want to see a really good X-Men flick before I turn 40.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#73202: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:46:31 PM

Why would Marvel have plans for X-Men or Fantastic Four?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73203: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:47:34 PM

They didn't make any recent deal. The Skrull thing has been on the books for a while. I think Whedon even said the reason the Skrulls weren't the bad guys in the first Avengers is because he didn't want to have to deal with the added treachery/paranoia aspect in a film that was already full of in-fighitng.

MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#73204: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:47:56 PM

I meant as if including them into the MCU at any given time.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#73205: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:48:35 PM

It's way too late to include the X-Men into the franchise.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73206: Jul 22nd 2017 at 10:49:27 PM

I don't know why they'd make plans for the X-Men. If there's a franchise they have the slightest chance of getting back, it's the Fantastic Four, not the X-Men, and even that looks dubious.

Part of what made the Spider-Man deal possible is that Marvel and Sony already had a much better working relationship than Marvel and Fox.

edited 22nd Jul '17 10:49:54 PM by comicwriter

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73207: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:05:44 PM

Sounds like the Captain Marvel movie will take some inspiration from The Kree/Skrull War. Feige also seemed to hint there have been Skrulls in hiding for a while (he asked if the Skrulls have been around this whole time, why did it take 21 movies for them to show up in person). Secret Invasion, much?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#73208: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:08:27 PM

So either Avengers 4 is gonna be Secret Invasion or something involving the Masters of Evil or something? Or maybe both?

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ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#73209: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:18:17 PM

If I could marry a trailer, it'd be the Thor: Ragnarok trailer.

Until the sexier, younger and dirtier IW trailer comes around, then I'd cheat on Thor: Ragnarok so fast that even Tiger Woods would be disgusted.

On other note, I've seen the 16-seconds-long Infinity War teaser. It shows pretty much nothing. Helmet-less Thanos, Dr. Strange and Starlord team-up, who I think is Tony falling, and Spidey. I'm frantically searching for it but damn, Disney is deleting them lightning fast, dude.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73210: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:20:45 PM

This got lost in the shuffle, but Hannah John-Kamen from Killjoys will be playing Ghost in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Happy to see we're getting more lady villains.

edited 22nd Jul '17 11:21:01 PM by comicwriter

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#73211: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:23:32 PM

Ooh nice! Don't know much about the character but this looks interesting.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73212: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:27:26 PM

Given the inspirations for Scott's suit I can only hope she will become Hannah John-Kamen Rider. Anyway it's nice that they're looking beyond just white actresses for their villain characters as well.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#73213: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:30:00 PM

I did love Thor's eyes lighting up and everything after Hela asks what he's the God of. Hopefully we're finally starting to get the MCU characterizations and power tiers closer to the comics.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73214: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:40:57 PM

Hey, I got one. Been saying Ghost would make a great Ant-Man villain.

And I'm kinda pretty sure Thunderbolts is gonna be a thing now. Say it with me: Justice, Like Lightning.

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#73216: Jul 22nd 2017 at 11:54:42 PM

I really hope Secret Invasion is some sort of 'HYDRA was in SHIELD all along' 2.0, except even larger in scale because there's more than one tv show and government agency affected by it. Imagine learning that Foggy was a Skrull the entire time and no-one knew, not even himself.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#73218: Jul 23rd 2017 at 1:21:14 AM

I don't like the Janet casting, but that is mostly because I wanted them to make good on the idea that space and time doesn't matter in the microverse or whatever it is Janet is trapped in, hence her not aging at all, hence her now being younger than her own daughter, hence creating a number of storytelling opportunities which couldn't be done with Steve because for one, he didn't have any children when he went into the ice and two, he was asleep for so long that most of the people he knew already died. Plus, two active Wasps would be awesome.

Anyway, I guess the Thor Trailer just blew everything else out of the water. This is great, Asgard looks and feels for the first time like an actual place and not some elaborate CGI set.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73219: Jul 23rd 2017 at 1:30:22 AM

It's harder but you can still be a hero while old. Look at Tony and Rhodey.

And considering they have a bunch of older actors playing the male superheroes while all the female ones are in their 20s to 30s I don't see what's wrong with letting a character who's expected to be an older woman actually be played by one for once.

edited 23rd Jul '17 1:32:23 AM by AlleyOop

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#73220: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:00:53 AM

Screenshot of Steve/Nomad [1]

edited 23rd Jul '17 2:02:14 AM by ComicFan

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#73221: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:15:32 AM

Infinity War Trailer leaked! https://streamable.com/adq6i

Shitty quality, but hell, this looks AWESOME!

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#73222: Jul 23rd 2017 at 2:49:40 AM

It just occurred to me...if Hela is also a stand-in for dead, is it possible that the Thor movie will be a lead-in to infinity war? I mean when Thor is out there, he might learn about Thanos.....

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#73223: Jul 23rd 2017 at 5:02:13 AM

[up]I'm pretty sure they claimed in last year's comic-con (or another event, I don't remember perfectly) that Ragnarok would be the Winter Soldier of phase 3, so maybe.

And I hope that means we'll get Hela in more than just Ragnarok.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73224: Jul 23rd 2017 at 5:20:27 AM

Captain Marvel being around in the 90's also means that she's been around to... say... inspire people for a while. Which means we could get a fully grown Kamala in the present. I was wondering about that.

ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#73225: Jul 23rd 2017 at 6:03:47 AM

Mmm, I don't know about that. I'd prefer a teenage Kamala, since we're lacking superheroes on the younger side.


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