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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73026: Jul 18th 2017 at 9:49:44 PM

Inhumans are way less random as to how and when they manifest, since it has to involve Terrigen and they have to have the gene. Mutants just...are, and the whole idea was the X-gene was something all humans carried and thus any child could potentially be a mutant

Fans aren't really protective of who can be a mutant so much as they were objecting to the idea that no one can be, which is what was happening with Inhumans supplanting them.

edited 18th Jul '17 9:51:20 PM by Unsung

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#73027: Jul 18th 2017 at 9:50:52 PM

Did the rain thing happen in the MCU?

And whatever the vector, it still has to be exposure to terrigen.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73028: Jul 18th 2017 at 9:56:05 PM

I think Terrigen-laced rain is mentioned at one point, but not actually shown onscreen.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73029: Jul 18th 2017 at 10:07:13 PM

I thought it was fish oil or something like that.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73030: Jul 18th 2017 at 10:10:05 PM

The Terrigen leached into the water, which got into the fish, which were made into pills. But it's out in the ecosystem now. It's in the water, it's in the fish, it's in anything that drinks the water, eats the fish, and so on and so forth across the whole food web.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#73031: Jul 19th 2017 at 12:08:51 AM

Yeah, Joey got his power by eating fish oil pills, Yoyo got it by eating fish and there was some guy who was REALLY blessed with sucks who got it in a rainstorm. Basically it is in the water and you have little chance to avoid it all your life if you have the gene.

What I meant with random is that with the Mutants the rules are pretty much "they turn up during puberty" and every change to this concept needs explanation which this mutant got his power earlier/later. But with Inhumans, people can get their abilities any time and within the MCU, everything water related can be the trigger.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#73032: Jul 19th 2017 at 12:18:52 AM

Puberty is more of an average with mutants. It's when most mutant abilities and traits manifested, but there were a lot of mutants, with a lot of variation between them. Mutations could manifest as early as birth or go unnoticed— or be kept hidden— until adulthood, in the case of mutants who had powers but might look otherwise normal, for instance.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#73033: Jul 19th 2017 at 12:25:31 AM

It really depends on the kind of stories the writers want to tell. In the pages X-Men, a lot of new mutants are teenagers because a their backstories are often mini-coming of age stories. With villains, you get "powers triggered early" more often because it tends to be more important that they have powers in the first place than knowing when they got them - at least until you eventually get to their backstory.

Then you get the characters whose X-Gene activating is like evolution in the Pokemon anime: whenever it's dramatically convenient for this supporting character to have new abilities.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#73034: Jul 19th 2017 at 12:43:31 AM

Is there anyone whose X-gene activated when they were, like, a decrepit old phogey?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73035: Jul 19th 2017 at 8:09:29 AM

Don Cheadle talks about how Rhodey is back in Infinity War. Sounds like they're partially doing the cyborg thing from the comics.

warrior93 warrior93 from North Carolina Since: Feb, 2011
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#73036: Jul 19th 2017 at 5:58:59 PM

[up][up] Amanda Mueller and CENTENNIAL

Has the opportunity passed to reintroduce Phil Coulson into the movies and if he could've ever been reintroduced what movie do you guys think it should've been.

edited 19th Jul '17 6:00:27 PM by warrior93

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73037: Jul 19th 2017 at 6:16:39 PM

If they intended to have Coulson show up again in the movies, what they should've done was have his resurrection happen in a post-credit scene in Iron Man 3 or something.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#73038: Jul 19th 2017 at 6:37:58 PM

I'm expecting it to be more of an exoskeleton-type deal. Rhodey would be the type to value physical ableness, but It'd still be nice if they consulted some dIsability advocates on how to do this without coming off as patronizing. There's so many viewpoints on this including the idea that any kind of prosthetics is inherently ableist, but at least they can say they did the research.

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#73039: Jul 20th 2017 at 12:16:09 AM

Black Panther San Diego Comic-Con poster[1]

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#73040: Jul 20th 2017 at 12:25:02 AM

Minor Black Panther spoilers revealed in recent EW Interview.

Killmonger's a prince

Wakanda has been mining vibranium for over 2,000 yrs

Sounded like Shuri is 16

The reaction that some Wakandans will have to T'Challa becoming king is the same as when Trump became president

Most of the movie takes place in Wakanda and South Korea with very little in the US.

Killmonger's mask from the trailer is a Wakandan relic.

The scene from the trailer where we see Klaue with a gun is during a heist scene where he's trying to steal Wakandan relics.

Sounded like the interrogation scene takes place early in the movie.

After the interrogation scene T'Challa and Okoye lie to Ross about Wakanda being advanced and Ross doesn't believe them.

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#73041: Jul 20th 2017 at 12:29:25 AM

Like he'll make Wakanda great again or he's an airheaded moron manchild hopelessly unqualified?

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ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#73042: Jul 20th 2017 at 12:36:35 AM

They won't like that he plans on reaching out to the outside world and see it as a mistake. Also whether or not to help refugees and their neighboring countries will be brought up.

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#73043: Jul 20th 2017 at 12:43:41 AM

That... doesn't sound like the analogy they think it is, then.

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ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#73044: Jul 20th 2017 at 3:22:04 AM

So he's kind of like a Reverse Trump living in Reverse America, where opinions are polarizing and the country is evenly divided in all the most important issues. So, regular America.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#73045: Jul 20th 2017 at 5:52:09 AM

EDIT

edited 20th Jul '17 5:52:19 AM by comicwriter

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Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#73048: Jul 20th 2017 at 7:25:30 AM

wild mass guessthe interrogation scene between Ross and Klaw will be a game of riddleswild mass guess.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#73049: Jul 20th 2017 at 8:06:37 AM

[up][up]That sounds like Stan Lee sharing his philosophy on heroes and heroism in a minute.

And it is awesome.

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#73050: Jul 20th 2017 at 9:29:37 AM

Wait so...does this mean Punisher is gonna show up in Defenders?

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