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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72951: Jul 17th 2017 at 11:39:24 AM

Well, I was hoping that they would at least address Bucky being there and how the fact puts Wakanda in danger. I wasn't necessarily expecting them to unfreeze them, I was just kind of expecting that his presence would be part of the story.

Also, I set my priorities however I want. While I am at least interested in everything related to the MCU it doesn't mean that I like all characters in it equally.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72953: Jul 17th 2017 at 12:35:44 PM

It's funny seeing people freak about Bucky on tumblr. Good grief.

[up][up]Only if he keeps the deep v.

edited 17th Jul '17 12:41:26 PM by comicwriter

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#72954: Jul 17th 2017 at 12:43:10 PM

I demand Steve-Nomad, complete with navel length v-neck and that part where he almost considers the name "Batman".

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72955: Jul 17th 2017 at 1:18:26 PM

[up]and the part where he trips on his own cape.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72956: Jul 17th 2017 at 2:39:05 PM

Oh man, that actually happened?

"I always knew I'd see someone do that someday!"

Ok, that has to happen.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72957: Jul 17th 2017 at 3:30:57 PM

[up][up][up]and the moment he said Batman, vulture come out of nowhere to beat the shit out of him.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#72959: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:10:53 PM

In all seriousness, Infinity War is probably going to be the best opportunity the MCU is going to have for Steve Rogers to use his Nomad persona.

Perhaps he's been using the Nomad name as away to carry out some clandestine superheroics between the events of Civil War and Infinity War, and he keeps the outfit (which, while stylistically similar probably won't have the full v-neck) through most of the movie, only getting his shield back near the end and reclaiming the mantle of Captain America in his final scene. This lets us have a full movie of Nomad but clearly sets up a return to Captain America in Avengers 4.

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#72960: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:17:02 PM

I wouldn't get your hopes up for, like, Cap in full Nomad attire making pronouncements like, "Evil shall fear, for the mighty Nomad has arrived!" The MCU doesn't really do that.

I expect Rogers will be operating under the mysterious guise of Steve Rogers and we'll just get a cute Shout-Out to the Nomad name. Maybe his secret Avengers operation is called Nomad. Maybe someone makes an aside comment about how he's become a nomad. Definitely not some big superhero pronouncement like, "Captain America is dead. Call me...THE NOMAD!!!"

He almost certainly will not be wearing a mask, on account of having absolutely no reason to do so. He has a public identity and intends to just keep doing what he's been doing so it's not like an anonymous mantle would benefit him in any conceivable way. "I'm a wanted fugitive for illegal superheroics, so I shall don this mask! That way, no one will know it is really me as I perform illegal superheroics and become a wanted man in this new identity too!"

edited 17th Jul '17 4:17:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#72961: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:26:13 PM

Um that makes no sense. Being a wanted fugitive is the perfect reason to hide his identity

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72963: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:33:19 PM

He will most likely just have the fake identity "Steve Nomad".

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72964: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:37:37 PM

Damon "Nomad" Notsteverogers. Airtight.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#72965: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:38:50 PM

Um that makes no sense. Being a wanted fugitive is the perfect reason to hide his identity

Being a wanted fugitive is a reason to take on a fake name, sure, but that's not the same thing as a superhero mantle. Like Swanpride said, it'd be a rationale for becoming "Steve Nomad" or something. But a costume, mask, and superhero name? Just to continue doing the same things he's wanted for in the first place? That's completely pointless.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72966: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:58:58 PM

More likely other people refer to him as the Nomad, while he himself uses a pseudonym, and it's something like Jeffrey Mace or John Walker as a Shout-Out to the various other Captain Americas.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72967: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:04:55 PM

Bet it just turns up as his callsign in radio chatter and that's it.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#72968: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:16:59 PM

The MCU: "We don't really like this whole "Superhero" thing, to be honest."

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72969: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:18:29 PM

[up]The MCU: guardians of the galaxy and antman is okay, but steve calling himself nomad is too much for us :/

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#72970: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:20:02 PM

Yet they'll let Howard the Duck be a thing.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72971: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:24:41 PM

Eh. Nomad was a footnote, a comic book in-joke that barely lasted a few months. Marvel doesn't have a ton of characters with capes, at least not to the same degree as DC. Most of the big ones are villains (Magneto, Dr Doom, the Sentry depending on the arc). The MCU's still got Thor, Vision, and Doctor Strange, and between them, Spider-Man, and the Guardians of the Galaxy, they're still doing some of the most enthusiastically fantastical stuff we're likely to get.

Just get Scott Buck out of this company and we'll be back on track, I'd say.

edited 17th Jul '17 6:51:54 PM by Unsung

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72972: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:45:55 PM

Vision's cape in the comics has an important practical component.

He can use it as a remote bomb.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#72973: Jul 17th 2017 at 6:49:35 PM

[up][up] I'm still scratching my head on how Scott Buck got the Inhumans TV show gig after doing Iron Fist and from what I've frequently heard were the worst seasons of Dexternote . Sure maybe he can write a pitch that sounds great on paper, but the fact is he hasn't been able to consistently deliver on the end product when he's in the showrunner's seat.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72974: Jul 17th 2017 at 6:57:10 PM

It's because he can make it cheap and quick, which is what Marvel needed out of Iron Fist and Inhumans.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72975: Jul 17th 2017 at 7:14:58 PM

The pitch for Iron Fist also probably looked a lot better on paper. Playing up the legal and corporate drama doesn't sound too dissimilar from what Daredevil and Jessica Jones did successfully, it's just that in this case, it ended up being boring as shit.

As for the Nomad suit, I always figured a fugitive Steve would end up looking functionally similar to his look as "The Captain."

edited 17th Jul '17 7:16:49 PM by comicwriter


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