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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72926: Jul 16th 2017 at 5:19:12 PM

Oh thank god.

[up][up]Quite high since it's teased as a lead-in to Infinity War.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72927: Jul 16th 2017 at 5:19:16 PM

[up][up] Pretty high. That's their last chance to have a stinger lead into the movie.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72928: Jul 16th 2017 at 5:27:08 PM

I was wondering if they might show a clip from it in the stinger for Black Panther.

Like, Wakanda's being invaded, so T'Challa decides to defrost Bucky to give them some extra manpower, or something like that.

Oh God! Natural light!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72929: Jul 16th 2017 at 5:46:50 PM

[up]Only if he just tosses his new arm at him. But yeah I could see that as the post-credit scene.

edited 16th Jul '17 5:52:19 PM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72930: Jul 16th 2017 at 5:54:17 PM

I'd prefer if all of their new characters/series had tingers that build their own mythoses, like Homecoming's was.

But still... an after credits scene where everything seems well in Wakanda, and then T'Challa looks up and there are alien ships falling from the stars... that's awesome.

I just realized that the "aliens invade Wakanda" thing is probably inspired by the Ultimate universe.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72932: Jul 16th 2017 at 6:19:26 PM

I would like it if Bucky was alluded to or factored into the plot as a faceless Living MacGuffin (e.g. Killmonger leaks news of his presence to rally the xenophobic factions) rather than having an onscreen appearance walking around chatting with people. A postcredits scene is highly likely though as Black Panther is the last film before Infinity War and D23 reports say that T'Challa and Bucky are fighting side-by-side.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#72933: Jul 16th 2017 at 7:21:35 PM

The question is did they get the trigger words out of Bucky's head beforehand? Because it seems like IW is going to be complicated enough without "shit, the Asset is back in play, and he just killed half his team". But it also seems too involved to show them removing the triggers, and this really deserves better than the way they handled Pepper and Extremis in IM 3.

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#72935: Jul 16th 2017 at 8:44:07 PM

I just realized that the "aliens invade Wakanda" thing is probably inspired by the Ultimate universe.

Personally, I was reminded of The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, where once the team learned about the Skrulls' infiltration of Earth, T'Challa left the Avengers to prepare Wakanda for the coming invasion, which later led to an great episode solely devoted to Wakandan forces fending off Skrull impostors with Carol Danvers caught in the middle.

Then, in an episode after that storyline was concluded, Hawkeye spent the entire episode whining about how T'Challa "abandoned" the team to do what a nation's leader is supposed to do in the first damn place. Because EMH Hawkeye is an asshole.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72936: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:18:42 PM

I'm only a little sad that the MCU is so grounded that you can't have random eccentric SHIELD agents wearing elaborate superhero costumes as part of their everyday jobs, like in EMH and the comics. It's the first thing I always think of when I think of EMH's Hawkeye.

Like, if Bobbi Morse was exactly the same in Agents of SHIELD, except she was wearing this with no explanation.

C'mon, it'd be hilarious!

edited 16th Jul '17 9:20:24 PM by KnownUnknown

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#72937: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:28:11 PM

I'm still pissed that MCU Hawkeye's most comics-accurate costume so far doesn't have the mask. tongue

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72938: Jul 16th 2017 at 11:51:58 PM

And just like that my interest in Black Panther sunk a notch. What can I say, I was so hoping to see one of my favourite MCU character. Not getting this is a bummer.....

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72939: Jul 17th 2017 at 2:36:36 AM

Honestly if your enjoyment of Black Panther was predicated that much on Bucky's presence you might wanna think about your priorities a bit.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#72940: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:05:23 AM

Fuck yeah no Bucky in Black Panther.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#72941: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:23:14 AM

Bucky was put on ice until they figured out how to undo the Brainwashing Hydra did. Did you think they'd be able to do that quickly ?

Edit: also I just realized if Steve/Bucky became Canon- Bucky would become Buck Rogers in the 21st century!

edited 17th Jul '17 4:25:07 AM by Xopher001

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#72942: Jul 17th 2017 at 4:31:57 AM

Black Panther is by far my most anticipated superhero movie.

It has enough of its own story, Bucky can wait.

edited 17th Jul '17 4:32:52 AM by Galadriel

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72943: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:46:45 AM

Yeah a movie this important didn't need to be the Bucky Show Part 3.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#72944: Jul 17th 2017 at 5:54:19 AM

Hyping a movie for the sake of another fave character is purely is misguiding and obsessive trait that affects the judgement of a piece of work.

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#72945: Jul 17th 2017 at 6:54:03 AM

Would undo quite a bit of the message too. You create a movie with a black director, black actors and actresses, set in Africa - putting some random white secondary character in it as an important plot piece should be the least of your worries (and if he is not important, ignoring him should not be an issue).

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#72946: Jul 17th 2017 at 8:17:01 AM

The Other Ross is still in the movie and he's white. So Hollywood can still find a way to fuck it up.

http://imgur.com/LSX4OPA

tongue

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72947: Jul 17th 2017 at 8:45:11 AM

[up]I was frankly pleasantly surprised that he's been so minuscule in the marketing so far. Wasn't even in the portraits EW did of the cast. I was thinking Marvel would try to play up his role to lure in the Sherlock fans.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72948: Jul 17th 2017 at 9:11:53 AM

We'll be getting an Infinity War teaser "very soon." Maybe something to coincide with Comic-Con?

edited 17th Jul '17 9:12:01 AM by comicwriter


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