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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#72901: Jul 15th 2017 at 2:39:49 PM

I'm glad the Black Order is being used, considering how recently they were introduced to the comics.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72902: Jul 15th 2017 at 2:49:49 PM

A-ha, no Supergiant! I thought as much.

Oh God! Natural light!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72903: Jul 15th 2017 at 2:54:15 PM

The whole Fantastic Four rumor was just a joke by Screen Junkies that some people went ahead and took seriously, I'm fairly certain.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72904: Jul 15th 2017 at 3:22:41 PM

[up]I saw it reported a bunch of places and a shit load of people were really excited on Twitter, which just made me face palm.

Anyway, I'm hoping we get a good reason as to why we haven't seen these guys before. If Thanos has an elite group of generals he's sending after the Infinity Stones (seemingly successfully), it makes you wonder why he needed to bother with unpredictable fuckups like Loki and Ronan to begin with.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72905: Jul 15th 2017 at 3:34:53 PM

It's probably like how Asgard is apparently fighting a bunch of wars on multiple fronts across the Nine Realms, but it's just a day trip for Sif and the Warriors Three. If groups like the Frost Giants, the Nova Corps, the Kree, and Asgard are all out there zipping around, a backwater like Earth probably seems like an afterthought, a 'Hey dipshit, after you get done twisting my pool boy's head off, go walk the Chitauri and pick up the Cosmic Cube for me, wouldja? Thanks."

Edit: ...I screwed that up, but now I'm imagining Thanos couldn't tell Loki and Ronan apart anyway.

edited 16th Jul '17 4:53:14 PM by Unsung

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#72906: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:28:07 PM

Apparently they're renaming The Black Order into "The Children of Thanos."

Maybe they don't want to come off as racist?

Anyway, is it me or does one of the Black Order members manage to be taller than Thanos?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72907: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:29:42 PM

It makes what we know about Thanos more consistent though.

Presumably Gamora and Nebula would have been in this group had they not noped out of dodge.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72909: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:54:49 PM

They're probably all going to share Gamora and Nebula's background of being alien children who Thanos raised as his own, as bodyguards and assassins/daughters and sons, to further explain their loyalty to him and to give them some instant connection to the heroes.

edited 15th Jul '17 5:22:09 PM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72910: Jul 15th 2017 at 5:16:39 PM

They're likely who Nebula was referring to with the "Of all our siblings, I hated you the least" line.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72912: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:21:37 AM

Don't know who either the Black order or the Outliers are, but it sounds consistent with what is already in the MCU, so I am good. I mean, it makes sense that we get to see some of more of Nebula's, Gamora and I assume Korath "siblings", and it will allow an immediate emotional connection which wouldn't be there otherwise.

Also, I was wondering how this is actually supposed to work if everyone is fighting against Thanos. For a proper climax we need more than that.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#72913: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:27:48 AM

Presumably they also fight the Black Order

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72914: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:32:57 AM

[up] Yes, NOW this is clear, but before they introduced the Black Order that was on the short list of concerns I have concerning this movie.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72915: Jul 16th 2017 at 9:34:00 AM

My going theory was that all the Avengers would have channeled their powers into Captain America, who would have fought Thanos on his own.

edited 16th Jul '17 9:34:10 AM by Bocaj

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72916: Jul 16th 2017 at 11:25:58 AM

The poster that was released yesterday. I know what it's homaging but Thanos looks kinda constipated.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72917: Jul 16th 2017 at 11:38:35 AM

I get why the change had to be done but I still think the face he had based off of Damion Poitier looked better.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72918: Jul 16th 2017 at 1:10:05 PM

He needs some kind of badass helmet. Without it his face looks kind of imbalanced.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72920: Jul 16th 2017 at 1:26:42 PM

He'd look better if he was just wearing the something closer to the costume we'd seen him in already. As it is he looks like he just got done at the gym. Which, to be fair to Thanos, he'd have to be at the gym a lot to stay that jacked.

Maybe his drycleaning got mixed up with Cable's.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72921: Jul 16th 2017 at 1:43:39 PM

[up]You can't win over Cate Blanchett if you skip leg day.

ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#72922: Jul 16th 2017 at 2:29:39 PM

Wait, why did they changed how he looks?

OMG, Ruined Forever, like, totally, Marvel is disrespecting the fanbase, Y U NO EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE COMIC, he looks like the fucking Rock and I hate him because he's in the F&F franchise, FUCK THIS SHIT, DC ALL THE WAY.

But seriously, what's with the change?

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72923: Jul 16th 2017 at 2:42:48 PM

Thanos could afford to skip a couple of chin days, though. I'm just saying.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#72924: Jul 16th 2017 at 4:48:44 PM

[up]Eh, he doesn't look nearly as ridiculous as a Baki character. [lol]

So what are the odds of Thanos popping up in the post credits scene of Ragnarok?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#72925: Jul 16th 2017 at 4:51:50 PM

Bucky won't be in Black Panther.[1]


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