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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#72476: Jul 6th 2017 at 11:55:58 AM

I suspect, however, it's a focus testing thing where photographs play better with mass audiences.

I think this is true, which is unfotunate but it wouldn't bother me so much if what we got instead wasn't just generic and bad shops. I'd much prefer to see stuff like that one Homecoming poster that has Spidey just chilling; it has a very strong personality and doesn't make any shops horrendously obvious.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#72477: Jul 6th 2017 at 11:59:47 AM

[up][up] Secret Wars?

The only good fanboy, is a redeemed fanboy.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72478: Jul 6th 2017 at 12:43:54 PM

So regarding the Spider-Man Homecoming YMMV page I'm seeing a ton of negativity towards Zendaya's character. Looking at critical reviews I haven't noticed them saying much about her either way so I can't tell if her personality is actually objectionable (there's been some nonspecific criticism about the film's portrayal of female characters in general) or if it's just a bunch of butthurt because of the (spoileriffic btw) ending.

edited 6th Jul '17 12:54:06 PM by AlleyOop

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72479: Jul 6th 2017 at 12:45:30 PM

Probably the latter.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72480: Jul 6th 2017 at 12:55:04 PM

It does seem rather butthurt, particularly the stuff about being a Hollywood Nerd.

Would it be alright if I deleted that entry, under the justification that more time is needed for a general consensus to form?

Oh God! Natural light!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#72481: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:00:23 PM

There's no way a character can be The Scrappy before release. Can it.

As for Internet Backdraft, it's doubtful there's an actual backdraft there but check to see if it does exist before canning it. If there is some criticism and collective groaning about the reveal (that is, if it is what the vague spoilers I've gotten implied it is), but just that and not a backdraft, stick it to Narm.

edited 6th Jul '17 1:01:20 PM by KnownUnknown

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#72482: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:00:26 PM

My general assumption is that she might be a Base-Breaking Character, but I'm seeing nowhere near the amount of bile for her to be The Scrappy.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72483: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:04:26 PM

I think some people have forgotten what certain tropes mean

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#72484: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:05:05 PM

I definitely don't see her being a Scrappy yet. That's just ridiculous and almost certainly the result of butthurt.

This song needs more love.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72485: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:05:21 PM

Yeah at worst Base-Breaking Character. I have an idea who might have added the Scrappy entry too lmao.

Fury is confirmed back for Captain Marvel by Deadline, confirming that previous rumor.

edited 6th Jul '17 1:06:14 PM by comicwriter

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72486: Jul 6th 2017 at 1:08:49 PM

Alright, it's done.

Not really sure if where to check if people are considering the line that was under Internet Backdraft to be Narm, though - and in any case, from what I read there, I don't know if the two would overlap here anyway. I suggest we hold off on that for now.

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72487: Jul 6th 2017 at 2:30:05 PM

How is Infinity war wrapping up the current arc news? I thought that was clear all along?

And I still want the secret invasion storyline, even though Ao S kind of did that one already.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#72488: Jul 7th 2017 at 4:50:38 AM

My general assumption is that she might be a Base-Breaking Character, but I'm seeing nowhere near the amount of bile for her to be The Scrappy.

It's not really about the amount of bile, as since those are two YMMV entries, they tend to overlap a lot (all base-breaking charactersnote  that are sufficiently prominent will get enough haters to become The Scrappy).

It's just that it's nonsensical to say that a fandom despises a character when it hasn't even seen the movie yet.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#72489: Jul 7th 2017 at 5:41:05 AM

Who is this character anyway? Gwen? Mary Jane? Or wait are we talking about the roomate ?

edited 7th Jul '17 5:42:24 AM by Xopher001

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72490: Jul 7th 2017 at 5:45:51 AM
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72491: Jul 7th 2017 at 7:24:13 AM

How about discussing this stuff in the Spider-man Homecoming thread? I know to avoid this one until the movie is released over here next week, but I would hate to avoid this one.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72492: Jul 7th 2017 at 7:32:34 AM

[up][up][up][up]I should've anticipated this level of butthurt and yet I'm still surprised.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72493: Jul 7th 2017 at 12:57:08 PM

A look at Surtur via the toys.

edited 7th Jul '17 1:18:01 PM by comicwriter

ComicFan Since: Sep, 2016
#72494: Jul 7th 2017 at 1:35:04 PM

Randall Park reportedly playing Jimmy Woo in Ant-Man & The Wasp[1]

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72495: Jul 7th 2017 at 1:40:24 PM

From Fresh Off the Boat? Well damn, never expected him to show up in the MCU.

-crosses fingers for Constance Wu to show up sometime in the future-

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72496: Jul 7th 2017 at 1:42:06 PM

I was expecting Tilda Swinton to play Jimmy. Bummed.

But seriously, great news.

edited 7th Jul '17 1:42:29 PM by comicwriter

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#72497: Jul 7th 2017 at 2:09:13 PM

Weird. I had heard that Johnny Depp was being considered. tongue

But yeah, cool casting. And nice to see the other main canonical SHIELD/government character (besides Fury, Hill, Everett Ross, and Sharon Carter). I always like seeing "prime time comedy" actors in the MCU, as it shows a good grasp of the right actors to convey the tone.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72498: Jul 7th 2017 at 4:45:39 PM

Surprised Jimmy is being put in that movie, maybe it'll eventually lead to him commanding his own title.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72499: Jul 7th 2017 at 4:55:56 PM

Some other Ragnarok figures, including the first look at Miek from Planet Hulk

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72500: Jul 7th 2017 at 5:11:39 PM

Who are the three between Loki and Thor? I assume one of them is Valkyrie.


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