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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#72351: Jun 30th 2017 at 12:43:02 PM

They probably shouldn't have made a whole movie with the premise of "how would superheroes/supervillains be legally treated in the real world?" if they didn't want people discussing it.

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72352: Jun 30th 2017 at 12:46:18 PM

Fine, but we never get anywhere when we discuss this sort of thing - it's always the same arguments again and again. If I'll be frank, Thenardier, you seem to make it more heated than usual.

Let's just drop it and move on.

edited 30th Jun '17 12:46:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72353: Jun 30th 2017 at 12:46:32 PM

[up][up]Once again as the Americans say, Bingo.

...what came first the dog Bingo or the game?

edited 30th Jun '17 12:59:39 PM by thatindiantroper

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72354: Jun 30th 2017 at 12:51:55 PM

You know after seeing first season of daredevil I will said

Foggy is the friend Matt need but not the one it deserved, really what amazing guy he is.

Also mister Cárdenassad why good people have to die? Damn...

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#72355: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:04:17 PM

Their original plans for Ms. Cardenas' death were even worse.

She really would have been Ms. Carnitas if they did that. tongue

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72356: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:14:09 PM

This argument has happened how many times and it's never ended? I'm with Karkat on this, it needs to end.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72357: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:16:28 PM

People always have the option of just ignoring and not responding. But this is the internet, where people will be damned if they don't get the last word in!

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72358: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:23:29 PM

I think people also talk because is just.....weird, Civil war goes about responsability and all and them the issue is just....droped like that.

It come as weird, reaaaaaaaally weird

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#72359: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:29:13 PM

I mean the Russos claimed they wanted this movie to spark a debate so is it really shocking people continue to argue over it after its release?

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72360: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:30:51 PM

This website literally just exists for people to spend way to much time on repetitive topics.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72361: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:32:54 PM

[up][up]but is the wrong type of debate here, is one thing to said if Tony or Cap were right, another is the face movie kinda skip wanda action or hell the enterly hulkbuster fight.

I mean just look ross: the guy have a Hulk Boner and he dosent like Tony that much ether and yep he never said anything about south África and I wil said the reason is because it throw a wrench into the whole "both side have a point"

Also I will said the south África thing change context. Once could argüe Tony is affaid of wanda in some level and that is why he put her in house arrrest

edited 30th Jun '17 1:33:28 PM by unknowing

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72362: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:35:21 PM

Both sides have a point but Cap basically only has a point because they live in a superhero story where the government is written to be absolutely terrible so as to justify the heroe's actions.

And really this just makes their world look lik one hell of a crapsack one.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72363: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:36:11 PM

[up][up][up][up]Perhaps, but it's literally the same argument had again and again, often with the same parties involved. I can see why people are finding it old at this point.

edited 30th Jun '17 1:36:28 PM by comicwriter

MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#72364: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:36:42 PM

Both sides don't have a point, Cap is all but outright stated by the story to be in the right because the opposition are complete strawmen. After the events of the Avengers and Winter Soldier the only sane people in the MCU are hardcore libertarian conspiracy theorists.

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72365: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:39:01 PM

M.C.U version of Alex Jones is the world's greatest journalist.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72366: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:39:55 PM

[up][up] At this point almost all the discussion about the this franchise is super predictable.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72367: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:41:45 PM

How about a spinoff thread just for arguing about Civil War stuff so the rest of us can talk about new inane things.

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#72368: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:42:49 PM

You mean the Civil War thread?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#72369: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:45:42 PM

If we want to revive that thread to avoid clogging up this one with Civil War discourse, I'd be perfectly fine with that.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#72370: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:46:11 PM

Yeah, like some kind of... Civil War thread just for Civil War things.

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MonsieurThenardier Searching from Murika Since: Nov, 2016 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#72371: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:46:34 PM

M.C.U version of Alex Jones is the world's greatest journalist.
"All the average Avengers care about is dressing up in snazzy uniforms and having costumes and starring at people... I know your costume is cool! You got a little gold-framed helmet! You scare me so bad! Ugh... you scum! SCUM! ... What's driving me crazy is that photo right there, zoom in on that, it's one of those Avengers with a black uniform with a bow. You know that guy is a coward! You know he's a piece of garbage! You know he's weak! Oh! ... Oh, you got a bow, I'll just worship you. Oh, you got a bow, it's okay! Ugh, your demonic little arrows!"

"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#72372: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:47:25 PM

Yes, revive that thread to keep this one from being clogged, please.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72373: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:51:20 PM

Hey look you guys.

[up][up]Alright, that was pretty good.

edited 30th Jun '17 1:51:57 PM by Unsung

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#72374: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:55:24 PM

Ehhh dont want to be pendantic here but.....civil war IS part of the MCU whatever we liked or not

and being honest here...sometimes I feel the movie get worst the more conect is the to the MCU, on is own is a pretty solid story but as part of something bigger it come as....iffy for the lack of a better word.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72375: Jun 30th 2017 at 1:59:22 PM

Yeah, but we do have an open thread if people want to talk about it. Like, it's one thing if there's nothing else to talk about, but these line-by-line war-of-attrition-style conversations tend to sweep over anything else that comes up in the thread. And really, how productive can any conversation even be, after it's gotten to the point where the participants are responding to each other by dissecting and refuting everything the other person says one sentence at a time.

edited 30th Jun '17 3:36:51 PM by Unsung


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