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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Nice hyperbole, but you haven't actually explained why just measuring his speed is 'wrong' besides saying "they could have written the movie differently if they wanted to so that he's faster." Well no shit, they also could have given him Superman's powers if they wanted to. But they didn't, and they didn't depict him going very fast either.
edited 29th Jun '17 5:10:13 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
He probably could, not even joking. Which is pretty sad because on paper their capabilities are fairly impressive like superhuman strength, flight, built-in blasters, and pistol-proof plating on their chests. They're just really dumb and die really easily.
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Hawkeye could break them by kicking them, or smacking them with his bow, or sticking an arrow through their heads. Cap also completely bisected one with a quick toss of his shield (note that his usual shield tosses fail to bisect humans and can just barely manage to embed the shield into the side of a van). They're as durable as cardboard wrapped in tinfoil.
edited 29th Jun '17 5:23:50 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."Every single Ultron Armor was fucking worthless. Even the Invincible Vibranium Body was trash. Quick, somebody change the subject before I go frothing with rage from how ineffective Ultron is as a threat.
My various fanfics.Looking at the reviews most of the praise seems to be going for the school scenes and the character interactions, while the actual superheroics are... solid. Sounds kinda like the Power Rangers reboot in a way.
Makes sense, Marvel's already settled into a comfortable complacency with its action for most films so now it has to fall to the stuff that's not superheroics to help it differentiate itself. I know that at least for myself it's the talky bits that take place in between the action that affect my opinion of these movies nowadays.
Pietro's speed is the speed of plot. He's fast enough to unload a clip of bullets, move people away from a speeding train, and slow his perceptions down to watch a bullet in slow motion, but not fast enough to avoid Whedon's death by quip.
edited 29th Jun '17 9:28:11 PM by alliterator
I think it makes more sense that Cap is deliberately tossing the shield slower when aimed at humans so as to not kill them. Him tossing it at the same speed as at an Ultron bot should result in at least a shattered rib cage. Or this might just be Strong Flesh, Weak Steel.
For a simple example, diamond is much harder than steel, yet throwing a chunk of diamond at body armor like a baseball at about 30 m/s will do jack while a well-shaped rifle round of much lower mass with a steel core can go through that same armor.
Also not sure what you're getting so worked up about. It's not that big of a deal.
edited 29th Jun '17 10:23:56 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."It's just Tap on the Head like a bunch of movies. We see Cap in TWS smack the crud out of a bunch of guys during the elevator fight and they show up later just a little bruised. I don't see where all this realism insistence comes from.
edited 29th Jun '17 10:33:30 PM by Tuckerscreator
I don't know why you'd assume they deviate from realism here when nothing shows as much. If people are hit by impacts that would kill them in reality, and they don't get up afterwards, and Cap is killing other people in the same scene, it's pretty safe to assume they're dead. Unlike everyone he hits with his shield or kicks, those guys in the elevator weren't necessarily hit with lethal amounts of blunt force. For an example of that you'd want to see that guy at the beginning of TWS who Cap kicks hard enough to send flying 20 feet and into a metal tank (love that scene).
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."edited 29th Jun '17 10:39:18 PM by alliterator
