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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#72076: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:32:32 PM

Black Bolt is a superhero to his subjects. Like Thor often acts as a superhero for his Asgardian subjects.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72077: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:35:28 PM

Well there's already Black Panther to be superhero king

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72078: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:36:43 PM

And they were wise enough to not put him in a trench coat. Because that'd be stupid. It'd be like a Thor movie where he's fighting evil while wearing cut-offs and an "I'm with stupid" T-shirt.

edited 26th Jun '17 12:37:00 PM by comicwriter

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72079: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:38:12 PM

There's also Thor, eventually, and Namor, and Doctor Doom. And yeah, Black Panther will probably examine the king-and-superhero thing in greater depth. That's fine. Black Bolt is more of a plot driver than a protagonist. But 'Black Bolt' is kind of the ultimate superhero name, and being king is pretty much his whole deal. I just don't see the point of dancing around the basic premise of the character.

edited 28th Jun '17 8:51:56 PM by Unsung

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#72080: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:39:14 PM

I now want an action scene in Ragnarok where Thor is wearing cut-off jeans and an "I'm with stupid" t-shirt.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72081: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:40:43 PM

Maybe if Ragnarok isn't the last Thor movie and they do that JMS storyline where Asgard gets moved to Kansas.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#72082: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:41:13 PM

Namor and Doom lean more towards supervillain king

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#72083: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:49:07 PM

So did Black Bolt, originally. But being a superpowered king isn't really wholly unique in Marvel, is my point. The reason Black Bolt is the exemplar here is because, at a glance, he looks and sounds more like a superhero than most actual Marvel superheroes. Someone worked pretty hard to justify his name being Black Bolt. He wears tights and a mask. I just don't get the point of shying away from that or trying to reinvent the character when the four-colour quirkiness is like half the reason to even make an Inhumans adaptation.

edited 26th Jun '17 1:22:48 PM by Unsung

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72084: Jun 26th 2017 at 12:53:02 PM

Right. There are properties or characters who work well with a more grounded or realistic approach like Falcon not wearing red spandex and feathers. Inhumans though is a property that there's really no point in making if you're not gonna go crazy and have fun with it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#72085: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:16:49 PM

I am still reserving judgement. So far the only thing we have seen is the leaked trailer and there the special effects might not have been done yet. Plus, I can life with the costumes or the hair not living up to expectations as long as the actual story and the characters are good.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#72087: Jun 26th 2017 at 7:46:25 PM

I can't see the site unless I allow ads. I shall not do this thing. Can someone tell me what it's showing? Does his armor still look like the fabricator ran out of paint halfway through?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#72088: Jun 26th 2017 at 10:39:53 PM

[up]Try this link.

edited 26th Jun '17 10:40:04 PM by Tuckerscreator

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#72089: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:42:45 AM

The shoulders make me think Asgard.

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#72090: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:49:02 AM

[up] Why?

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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
A wandering user
#72092: Jun 27th 2017 at 6:24:49 AM

[up] Given the size of the film, that's reasonable enough.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#72093: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:07:12 AM

So he's probably just there for a brief introduction scene and a big final battle scene. That seems fair.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72094: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:46:04 AM

They also said some characters will have minor roles in Infinity War but take on bigger roles in the follow-up.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#72095: Jun 27th 2017 at 10:27:50 AM

Also of note...

Keep your eyes peeled, then.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#72096: Jun 27th 2017 at 10:50:29 AM

[up]Is there context for it? A guardians cameo?

edited 27th Jun '17 10:50:41 AM by comicwriter

ExplosiveLion Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#72098: Jun 27th 2017 at 11:31:44 AM

That Spidey link also touches on some discussion we all had a couple pages back; if the Venom&Others spinoffs were part of the MCU and/or Homecoming universe. And guess what, they aren't.

So either she was misunderstood, or Marvel put a stop to Sony's plans the moment Amy Pascal opened her mouth and now they're trying to play it cool. You be the judge.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#72099: Jun 27th 2017 at 11:36:12 AM

I have a feeling Pascal was serious about making MCU films without Marvel Studios and Feige sicced Disney's legal team on her.


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