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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
When? The only maybe example I can remember is at the tail end of his fight with Abomination, and it's debatable if that was the case at all or if it was just a standard Heroic Second Wind as can happen to anyone. And even if that was this attribute in action, it clearly shows that his strength doesn't fluctuate much if it does at all since he was basically at the maddest it was possible for him to be (Betty threatened and Abomination taunting and beating him into near-unconsciousness) and he still needed to outsmart Abomination (who was roughly his equal beforehand) to beat him.
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."
The Abomination is supposed to be just as strong as the Hulk, yet the Hulk manages to choke him out, making the Hulk stronger.
edited 25th Jun '17 1:16:38 PM by alliterator
I don't think following that precedent is going to make people stop crying about the MCU lacking impact.
I'm not saying they follow. I think what they should do is kill off several of the heroes without bringing them back. The only major heroes that have died in the films and stayed dead are Quicksilver and Agent Carter and the latter died of old age. Killing off several of the Avengers and/or Guardians would be a genuine shakeup. It's not like the comics where people die every few years and then come back.
edited 25th Jun '17 1:38:17 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."I do agree the "anger makes Hulk stronger is basically not a thing in the movie. They went out of their way to distance themselves from it by making Bruce's trigger be his heartbeat rather than the emotion of anger.
Even in the comics, it's mostly a hack-n-eyed excuse for the writers to justify Hulk's fluctuating strength.
edited 25th Jun '17 1:49:04 PM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Anger is the primary cause because generally, anger and nervousness speeds your heartbeat, but it's clearly just the heartbeat spike now, otherwise sensual excitement (like the two scenes in which Banner explicitly states he can't have sex without Hulking out) would not be a problem for him. Jumping off a helicopter also does not entail anger, rather it entails fear (which also spikes heartbeats), and that's how he turns in The Incredible Hulk.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."As I said, it's emotions. His heartbeat indicates his emotions, rather than vice versa. If it wasn't his emotions, he would de-Hulk every time his heartbeat slowed or he wouldn't turn into the Hulk at all if his heartbeat was calm — but according to The Avengers, he can actually control when he turns into the Hulk, because "I'm always angry."
(Also, he doesn't actually turn into the Hulk when he gets sexually aroused, his watch just beeped at him. He just didn't want to risk it.)
Peter from the Amazing verse
sold his franchise sold his existence to bring Gwen Stacy back to life, see...
edited 25th Jun '17 11:09:39 PM by KnownUnknown
I don't really follow the logic about the Miles thing.
edited 25th Jun '17 11:18:59 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.The heartbeat thing got kind of changed in The Avengers where it is suddenly the anger again (which makes more sense anyway).
Anyway, I kind of expect them to do the Death of Captain America but switched, with Tony being the one who dies in the end...or they do it twice. They could first kill Cap and then Strange turns up and plays around with time, but the second time around it is Tony who dies instead.
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It's very simple:
Abraham Attah is listed as playing a character named "Abe." Wikipedia linked this character as "Abraham Brown" (a character who became the superhero Black Tiger) who was the brother of Hobie Brown, the Prowler. The movie doesn't feature Hobie, but does feature another version of the Prowler, Aaron Davis. And Aaron Davis also has a brother, Jefferson, who has a son named Miles Morales.
So either Abraham Attah is playing some random character that never went to Midtown High in the first place...or he is actually playing Miles Morales and they are hiding it with a sly reference.
edited 25th Jun '17 11:21:23 PM by alliterator
Yeah you lose me at the Abe = Abraham Brown thing. Wikipedia isn't reliable, was it ever stated anywhere official that's who it is?
This song needs more love.Nope. None of the students are listed with their last names, but Wikipedia linked them to characters anyway (like Sally = Sally Avril, Cindy = Cindy Moon, and so on). To be fair, there aren't a lot of characters that go by "Abe" in the comics. It was either Abe Brown or Abe Beame
, the former Mayor of New York.
If I understand it right, the theory is that Wikipedia lists the character as an obscure hero whose brother happens to be a version of The Prowler that isn't in this movie, and that thus the character is actually going to be a third character entirely who has a different familial connection with a different version of the Prowler... yadda yadda yadda Miles Morales.
Yeah, it's a huge conclusion jump that assumes there's an egregiously complicated reference going on (and this from a guy who likes oblique references) - same as a lot of these "Marvel is hiding things" theories. Though there's at least more to this than the trash article that started the "Melissa is Mary Jane" rumor.
Albeit, it's a jump that I would nevertheless like to see (though I'd prefer if Miles were someone noticeably younger than Pete, like a child character who has a connection to and is inspired by Peter's actions).
edited 25th Jun '17 11:38:15 PM by KnownUnknown
Someone mentioned something about some of the Avengers dying in IW. My question is... why?
If I were writing the movie, I'd kill a bunch of people. And not just kill them, Man-of-Steel-style, but downright show on screen how people are dying by the thousands and how the Avengers are fuckin' useless and unable to stop any of it.
Maybe a woman dies in Caps arms. Tony tries to save a man and the man blows the fuck up. People are buried beneath buildings. Shit explodes. A bus full of kids gets blown to smithereens. Stuff like that. I know there's limitations, but hey, I'm pretty sure you could show some mild genocide to make sense of how big a threat Thanos is. I'm gonna be dissapointed if there's no human casualties, is what I'm saying. That's one of the things that made me dislike Age Of Ultron; it never showed any death other than Quicksilver's.
Remember that Thanos is not a threat to the Avengers, but to life itself. By only killing an Avenger you minimize the scale of the threat.
Something along the lines of the Moon in Majora's Mask, for example. A looming threat that is going to kill every single being on this shitty planet, without discrimination, and making no difference. Avenger, Wizard, Defender, random pedestrian and ugly dogs, everyone's going to die, yo.
edited 26th Jun '17 2:22:28 AM by ExplosiveLion
TIL The Avengers was PG-13 while Avatar was 11+. So I guess the death count has no influence here.
Nebula & Tony are the most likely to bite it. I don't think Drax is threatened, especially since he was the one with the most chemistry with the antenna girl in 2, so they probably want to keep him around to build around it in 3.
Bucky is a possible death too.
Bucky? Never!!!! There are so many stories you can tell with the character plus the actor has a multiple movie deal.
If you go at this backwards at characters who will most likely NOT die, Bucky is definitely on the list, along with the Hulk. Also all Got G except maybe Nebula, all characters which have been just introduced (Doctor Strange, Ant-man, Black Panther aso). I also think that Falcon, Wanda and Black Widow are less likely to die due to the diversity quotient.
Which basically leaves a bunch of secondary characters, Steve, Tony and Thor as well as Vision, who happens to have a giant target on his head. And I somehow doubt that Thor will die, because he is the kind of character you can easily replace with another actor down the line.
edited 26th Jun '17 3:57:31 AM by Swanpride
Poster and premier date for the Inhumans
, if anyone still gives a shit.

edited 25th Jun '17 12:57:37 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."