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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Generally, I agree. But if they've built up Thanos as the ultimate climax boss, I think it'd be better to get actual closure with his defeat.
Not only that but it wouldn't be impressive. It's the same reason I kept rolling my eyes at everyone who kept saying Ultron killing Black Widow or Hawkeye would be badass and show the movie really has stakes and that Ultron is a serious threat. No, it just shows he's able to kill the two most easily-killable members of the team.
edited 25th Jun '17 10:44:46 AM by comicwriter
Of course them hey kill pietro someone nobody feel attached so wanda can have more angst about it.
And nick fury is pretty much a non entity a this point, he can just apear or disappear a will, kinda like medivh of Warcraft, he will just "go into the mist of time"
Like I said having steve renounce the identity could be a good idea since NOW is against the government and is something of a renegate, so saying.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Death of Nick Fury would less be a way to show Thanos is badass and more of a It's Personal death for the Avengers. He was the one who brought them together, after all. And he is their most cerebral member. So it'd have a sense of Decapitated Army (though Cap is still their actual leader).
In "power stats" term his death would more be like Reality Ensues than a feat for Thanos; from what we're told (and going by the comics) Thanos is obscenely powerful, a guy like Nick Fury is minced meat if he gets within the same kilometer as where Thanos and his forces are fighting. The same actually goes for Cap, Hawkeye and Widow, but I digress.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."All depends on how they play it. I can see Cap and Fury sharing one last bittersweet conversation to the effect of "I'll find you inside a dam, completely fine, just like last time won't I?" and Nick chuckling heartily and just saying "Not this time, Captain. Not this time." before succumbing to his wounds/heading to his death.
"All you Fascists bound to lose.""Next season on Agents of SHIELD: NICK FURY JOINS THE TEAM!!"
"And look who I found living under a bridge: Quicksilver!"
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBut what if he had... AMNESIA??
edited 25th Jun '17 11:41:52 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBen Reillimoff.
Its a typo.
edited 25th Jun '17 11:41:45 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAmensia sounds like the name of a Catholic supervillain.
HE COMES TO MAKE YOU PRAAAAAAAAAY
"All you Fascists bound to lose."If I were writing it I'd have something like this: During act one or two Nick Fury dies in a similar manner to Coulson to make the conflict more personal for the Avengers. Vision may also get trashed when Thanos takes the Mind Stone but there will be an implication that Tony can fix him after all of this is over.
During the final battle Thanos smacks aside the Avengers and Guardians like in Infinity Gauntlet. In the process he winds up killing Drax and at least one Avenger, probably Hawkeye. Cap struggles to stand and gives a variation of his As Long as There Is One Man speech. Then Thanos breaks the shield and kills him too. Loki, who has taken over Mephisto's role in the Infinity Gauntlet story, tricks Thanos into becoming a cosmic being and leaving his body behind. This gives Nebula an opportunity to steal the Gauntlet. Thanos, in anger over being tricked, then proceeds to kill Loki. The Avengers manage to get the Gauntlet away from Nebula but not without killing her in the process. After which they destroy it to prevent its power from being misused.
During the denouement we see the Avengers at a funeral for Cap, Fury, and Hawkeye. After which Thor takes Loki's body and says he's going to cease contact with Earth before departing for Asgard. The Guardians take Nebula and Drax's bodies and fly away to have their own funeral service. Then the non-Avenger allies(Spider-Man, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, and Banner) depart too. After everyone is gone Tony tells Widow that once he's repaired Vision he's going to retire and leave her in charge of the new team; Black Panther, Bucky Barnes Cap, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, and the rebuilt Vision.
That sounds like way too many deaths. Three funerals? Yeah, no way they are going to do that.
No, I think probably Tony is going to bite it and that's it. He has connections to everyone, he's Peter's mentor, he used to be Steve's friend (and probably will be again before he dies), and he can also be easily replaced by someone else (either Rhodey or Riri — I do hope that they introduce Riri).
Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal: There's no Venom in the MCU. At all.
Speaking of Amy Pascal, she's still not with Sony, right? Did she do a Start My Own and made her own production studio?
Do remember we are talking about two movies. I'm going to guess at least one Avenger will die in Part I to signal the Darkest Hour (Vision and Fury would be my best guesses) and at least one will die in Part II in the final battle making a Heroic Sacrifice (this is where I see Nebula and Stark biting za dusto).
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Aside from Quicksilver the MCU heroes have gotten out mostly unscathed. I think a higher number of deaths would really impress upon the audience how dangerous Thanos is. Don't forget that the actual Infinity Gauntlet event had Thanos kill off every single hero Earth had. This movie would be toned down compared to that.
If you want to enact The Worf Effect effectively with Thanos, have him flat-out curb-stomp the Hulk in hand to hand combat. For some reason Marvel has so far been completely unwilling to have their golden boy's ass kicked past his debut, usually by contriving situations where he only fights weak enemies (e.g. the military never deploys any significant ordnance against him, he only fights Ultron after Thor melts his face off, he only fights Loki after Thor beats the crap out of him and he loses his scepter, he only fights Thor when Thor has to hold back against a bloodlusted Hulk). Even in the one fight where the plot required he lose, his opponent had to 'cheat' with it being made clear that Hulk would've ripped the Hulkbuster apart if Stark didn't get to repair it after the first few blows. So the average moviegoer probably thinks highly of him.
edited 25th Jun '17 12:35:27 PM by MonsieurThenardier
"It is very easy to be kind; the difficulty lies in being just."Repairing your giant robot isn't cheating. Its smart. Hulk himself has a healing factor, doesn't he?
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The actual Infinity Gauntlet book had Thanos kill over half the universe. And then they were brought back and every bit of damage he did was undone and then Thanos became a farmer.
I don't think following that precedent is going to make people stop crying about the MCU lacking impact.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm quite sure he will
◊ beat down Hulk like a whipped dog at some point.
I'm going to guess there'll be a scene the entire Avengers will all fight Thanos and get their asses kicked. It's possible during this "Thanos uses everyone as punching bags" scene, one of them will die.
edited 25th Jun '17 12:41:28 PM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."edited 25th Jun '17 12:51:10 PM by alliterator

Cap gave up his shield at the end of Civil War.
There was nothing about not being Captain America anymore. If something like that was mentioned in an interview or teaser or something then I don't know about it. But its a different situation then the US government claiming they own the Captain America identity and costume. All Tony laid claim to was the shield, saying that Steve didn't deserve it because Howard Stark made it and Steve is helping Howard's killer escape.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers