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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I don't really see how would Logan rank above Spider-Man 2.
I mean, Logan's not a bad movie in anyway, but it was kind of... I don't know. Half the time I was fucking depressed by the bleakness, and the other half I spent annoyed by how badly it was try-harding to avoid every trope that define the superhero genre. I went to the movie expecting a harsher Wolverine movie, not "Not Without My Daughter WITH CLAWS AND CURSE WORDS!"
I have very mixed feelings about Logan, is what I'm trying to say.
But back to the topic.
Sony did 5 Spidey movies. One was great (SM 2), one was good-ish (SM 1), and the other three were fucking terrible (with AMS 2 having a special place in my heart because of how shitty it is). That's not a great record.
The problem with Logan, to me at least, is that it poisons the rest of the series because you realize that literally none of them matter, everyone is going to die, and mutant genocide is inevitable.
It's like trying to enjoy A New Hope when you realize that everyone is alone, miserable, and a failure in The Force Awakens
My various fanfics.I look at Logan as a What If story. DOFP introduced time travel, and Deadpool 2 is going to bring in Cable, so I'm willing to accept Logan as an alternate history, one that can still be averted, or at least a branch in the path that we won't necessarily take.
Logan's a pretty powerful emotional experience. It falters a little in the third act, but it's a great sendoff for both Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart.
edited 20th Jun '17 11:09:16 PM by Unsung
Speaking as someone with severe thanatophobia, please stop
.
No, but seriously, the thing with Logan is, as Son Of Sharknado said, that it throws everything we know about the universe it is set in out the window to give us this story. And, to take it even further, we don't even get to see it happen.
I would've given a lot to see on the big screen Xavier killing most of mutantkind, the beginnings of Logan's poisoning, how the world reacted to that, so on and so forth. But instead of that they just tell us what happened, which I think it's the biggest mistake they could've done; not only because it raises more questions than it answers, but because they missed a huge opportunity to tell a two-part story that would've closed the circle of Logan's path. Instead, Logan feels as if I saw the first three seasons of a show, then skipped the next three seasons to make it to the final one. I understood the story, but I wanted them to show me how we got there, not to just throw me to the end. It just made me feel like the only reason this movie exists is because Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart are tired of playing those characters, not because they reached the final part of what they started.
Show, don't tell, people. It's simple as that.
I'm perhaps a minority opinion on the matter, but honestly, I don't think Spider-Man 2 is really that great. It's good, don't get me wrong. For its time, it was phenomenal. But I'm not inclined to say any of the Raimi films have aged that well after other superhero films started raising the bar.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I agree. Spider-Man 2 is genuinely good, but the acting of the leads is just as mediocre as all the other Raimi Spider-Man movies, it recycles most of the plot elements from Spider-Man, and it still has that goofy but trying to be cool despite the goofiness tone that both of the other movies also suffer for. Dr. Octapus is the best part of that movie, and while he's great, he's never going to top any 'best comic book movie villains ever' lists.
Perhaps but I'm sure 10-20 years from now, some people will be saying the same thing of the super hero movies we like right now.
We Are With You Zack Snyder
Or now that he is playing Commissioner Gordon in the DCEU. They have memes about him asking to get pictures of Batman.
Though I did see memes around his role in Whiplash and Portal 2.
edited 21st Jun '17 7:08:33 AM by Halberdier17
Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre AdventureMost of the original Superhero movies haven't aged that well at all. Mostly because we didn't know what could be back then, so we praised mediocre movies as great. If you see only amateur performances on stage most of the time you are really impressed the moment you see a professional one and think it is the greatest thing ever...until you discover that there are even better ones out there.
I highly disagree, many didnt age well because some issue on the moment it was shoot but is not like Expanded universe are better just because of it, SS is thrash, Antman,Doctor strange and the two thor are boring while Ao U and Bv S are hot messes that have put their director into hatedom

About Spider-Man 2— yeah, was about to say.