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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Stane is actually kind of a Self-Disposing Villain. Deleted scenes and alternate takes clarify that the EMP blast just fried his systems and knocked him out (same as Tony), he died because he fell on the Arc reactor (which subsequently exploded). So Tony was at best indirectly responsible for an accidental death.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Killing Ultron's bodies is a gray area because there is only one consciousness between them. And as remarked, Vision is the one that put Ultron down although not from lack of trying by everyone else.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersJust want to jump in and say that Tony absolutely had a kill count in Iron Man 3. He directly kills Brandt and Savin, plus tons of AIM mooks in his escape and then tons of Extremis soldiers in the big finale. They're all justified, of course, but he had a higher kill count in that film than he did in Iron Man 1. Though it is rather funny that he never directly killed any of his Big Bads; Pepper killed Stane and Killian, and Vanko killed Vanko.
As for Ant-Man, his only direct kill is Cross, but he and Luis did leave a few of Cross's unconscious mooks in the building when it imploded (the only guy Luis rescues is that security guard who was just doing his job), so that counts as a few kills.
And now for Punisher; where Punisher draws the line between "must kill" and "meh" varies from media to media, but MCU Punisher seems to specifically only hunt killers, mobsters, and other large game; he was uncomfortable around the obviously-crooked pawn shop owner but willing to let him be, until he revealed his involvement in child pornography. Petty criminals such as pickpockets probably get a pass from him.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!There was also a casting call looking for a stand-in for one of the Dora Milaje, and while less conclusive, someone pointed out
the stuntwoman for the actress who plays Princess Shuri is also listed in the Infinity War cast.
I guess at least some of the film will take place in Wakanda.
Which is the problem with the punisher as protagonist...I mean, Matt is way too ready to torture people, but he does have a strict no-kill rule (though he does throw people off roofs...honestly, for a show who spends that much time on Matt's hang-ups he is way too comfortable with being less than careful when ninjas are involved), Jessica does kill Killgrave but she spends a whole season trying to find another way to take him down, Luke only destroys weapons and the occasional bone and even Danny, despite all his anger issues, refrains from killing in the end. And this is a good thing. Vigilantes are in itself a grey area, but if they are out there and play executioner, they have definitely crossed a line.
The show isn't even out yet.
I'm not worried, though. Even the weaker shows, like Daredevil S2, have always at least been entertaining to me, so even if it's not very good in terms of production values I'll probably still enjoy it. I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to action shows.
Plus they're good time-wasters if you need SOMETHING to binge-watch on the weekend.
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You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!edited 2nd Jun '17 2:23:20 PM by alliterator
Regarding the discussion on the ethics of killing, I just wanted to note that more often than not, killing is not a choice. The use of violence is a choice, but the distinction between wounding and killing a person can be very blurry. Like, everyone knows that if you don't want to kill someone, you shoot out their kneecaps, right? That can f*cking kill people.
A lot of media is able to dance around the issue and enforce heroic No-Kill Codes by making killing into a sort of toggle. Like, if you do enough damage to a person, they reach 0 HP and are incapacitated, whereupon a "Kill This F*cker? Y/N" window appears and you get to choose the consequence of your violence.
This is basically the only reason why writers are able to claim characters like Batman or Superman have never killed anyone; they might smash a non-powered person's skull through a brick wall at 500 MPH and then slam a schoolbus down on top of him, but they never hit that toggle, so the person's just unconscious.
Consequentially, a lot of the blowback against "Heroes never kill" isn't even about morality, but about suspension of disbelief. If you're asking me to believe that every single time Batman has ever taken out a vehicle in motion, its occupants all were able to eject to safety, the vehicle's course never carried it into anyone, and anyone still inside the now totalled vehicle was safely knocked out, that gets a little bit harder to swallow each time he does it.
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Maybe is just me but what the hell mean larger than life to you? because strange can easly fit that: he is not just a magician, he is the SORCER SUPREME! and being arrogant can be a larger than life trait, you call it hubris which it fix pretty damn well.
Gaon: is not just that, but that hero already goes into colateral damage and brutal destruction which make punisher reputation just hollow.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"That's not what was meant. The earlobe thing is actually a perfect example, though, because the whole problem is hitting what you aim for. Having a chunk taken out of your ear won't kill you, but if that same shot were to miss by only a few inches (or, realistically, much less), it definitely might.
edited 2nd Jun '17 4:22:14 PM by Unsung
Of those, only shock and blood loss are fatal, and the earlobe isn't a vital enough point to cause shock or blood loss if damaged. Even a hemophiliac wouldn't lose enough blood to go into shock from that.
edited 2nd Jun '17 4:37:44 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Well, provided that the bullet doesn't hit any major blood vessel, the best place to get shot at is actually the liver. Mainly because a bullet can do a lot of damage so your bones and muscles, but the liver is pretty good in recovering itself. Most people who die from shots in the liver do so because of infection. (And I blame Sherlock for actually knowing stuff like this).
When my brother was shot, his surgeon said he was shot in the "best" place: the narrow area between the stomach and the intestine. The only way you die through it is via sheer bloodloss which would take some time. The surgery to fix it is, according to the surgeon, merely reshaping and reconnecting the stomach and intestine. Which is a long but relatively simple operation.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."No, no, the best place to get shot is in your hat, but not the part covering your head.
"I shot him, but it wasn't fatal! It was the fall that killed him" isn't great justification for it not being a kill, really. Especially since Tony was well aware that the exploding reactor could be fatal (as he accepted the risk of his own death) beforehand.
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