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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#71101: May 25th 2017 at 4:34:02 PM

I suspect they allowed in exchange to have full control over the movies which are in the MCU. Plus, let's wait and see....if homecoming exceeds expectations at the box-office and the first unrelated movie (which is not animated) bombs, a lot of projects will simply vanish from the schedule.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#71102: May 25th 2017 at 5:18:18 PM

[up]Essentially.

Besides, maybe it's like the mutants, where they make sense in their own world. I doubt it, but you never know.

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#71103: May 26th 2017 at 4:25:03 AM

I wonder if they add X Men especially Logan as he was an Avenger at one time in the comics. He could even appear in Deadpool. I actually liked the movies except for The Last Stand.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#71104: May 26th 2017 at 6:05:08 AM

That's not how the rights work. Were that the case all the Fantastic Four would be back at Marvel since all four of them have been Avengers at one point or another.

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#71106: May 26th 2017 at 7:55:52 PM

So Banner just sleeps as Hulk?

Or is the bed just for show?

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#71107: May 26th 2017 at 8:38:10 PM

Wasn't he Hulk when he took off at the end of Ao U? It could be that Hulk's taken over more or less permanently. Or Bruce was feeling despondent and hopeless enough to let him take over.

That could be an interesting complication: the heroes need Banner, but he doesn't show. They assume Hulk won't let him, and are shocked and dismayed to find out that no, Hulk isn't fighting to stay in control; it's Bruce that refuses to emerge.

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#71108: May 26th 2017 at 8:50:19 PM

Maybe the air on Sakaar is toxic to normal Humans.

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#71109: May 26th 2017 at 8:51:59 PM

The Planet Hulk comic had him emerge as Banner only twice.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#71110: May 27th 2017 at 12:46:20 AM

Planet Hulk also uses the comics canon, where Banner and Hulk are a split personality such that being Banner and being Hulk are two completely different states in a war of control with each other - Banner being gone for a while is often simply explained as Hulk not letting him out. But while Banner does attempt to disassociate himself with Hulk in the MCU, film Hulk is still Banner - sulky, overbulky and gamma drugged beyond restraint and reason, but still Banner.

Unless a retcon is involved, him not returning to normal after the Hulking out is done is definitely a more significant thing - if he's not doing it, there's a reason. I like the "Sakaar is toxic to humans" idea.

edited 27th May '17 12:48:08 AM by KnownUnknown

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#71111: May 27th 2017 at 1:44:57 AM

There's also the possibility that he's not being allowed to turn back, that on Sakaar they have some way to keep him transformed. Maybe they've found that the Hulk is, ironically, easier to control, so long as they provide him with plenty of violence and other goodies to keep his raging id satisfied, while Banner, being both smarter and more likely to be appalled by what's happening on Sakaar, would likely come up with some plan to escape.

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#71112: May 27th 2017 at 1:53:51 AM

Naturally, however long the Hulk remains Hulked Out depends on how much screentime Mark Ruffalo requires and how much CGI they can afford.

edited 27th May '17 1:54:35 AM by Tuckerscreator

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#71114: May 27th 2017 at 8:29:34 AM

Sakaar's air being toxic was the explanation they went with for the Planet Hulk animated movie. It wasn't actually stated in the film itself, but Word of God is that the sky was such a drastically different color because they wanted to communicate that it was poisonous without outright saying it.

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#71115: May 27th 2017 at 8:51:09 AM

It might be a bit late to have Sakaar's atmosphere be toxic. We've already seen Sakaarans breathing the same atmosphere as Xandarians, Kree, humans, a raccoon....

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#71116: May 27th 2017 at 9:39:47 AM

[up] So what? Because they are able to breath less toxic air it doesn't mean that every species can breath their air. Plus, they are paper people anyway.

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#71117: May 27th 2017 at 10:10:03 AM

Toxicity is relative. If they evolved to breathe an atmosphere that's, like, entirely made of helium or something, then our atmosphere would be toxic to them.

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#71118: May 27th 2017 at 10:12:34 AM

For all we know they have four sets of lungs that allow them to breathe in all kinds of atmospheres.

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#71119: May 27th 2017 at 10:17:47 AM

The science on that is so terrible that it makes my brain hurt. ~.~

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#71122: May 27th 2017 at 10:22:43 AM

Tobias it's superheroes. Four lungs isn't even the craziest thing to expect

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#71123: May 27th 2017 at 10:23:43 AM

[up]Except that lungs do not determine what type of air that you breathe.

edited 27th May '17 10:23:59 AM by RAlexa21th

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#71124: May 27th 2017 at 10:23:44 AM

[up][up][up] ...

You know what, fair enough.

edited 27th May '17 10:23:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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#71125: May 27th 2017 at 10:26:33 AM

[up][up] and radiation exposure doesn't give you super strength. My point still stands.


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