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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Seems to me like the arc reactor has always been in the comics in some capacity.
Aside from that and the humor, it seems everything else that made him compelling is from the comics. Even the humor was always there and it really isn't that impressive given everyone in the MCU is a snark bastard.
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And he didn't exist until 2015. When the movies began, JARVIS was a computer instead of a person, is the point.
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It wasn't. That's the point. It was just a chestplate with a magnet that kept him alive. It wasn't until the movie that they went back and did all that stuff about Arc Reactors.
And no offense but as for the humor, you seem to be purposefully trying to downplay that aspect to try and get the last word in. It was a pretty huge component of his portrayal in the movies.
edited 20th May '17 3:06:27 PM by comicwriter
Good thing the MCU introduced JARVIS
Imagine piloting a suit that complex without a computer. Imagine piloting a suit that complex without a computer that would backsass
Unthinkable...
Forever liveblogging the Avengers"That's silly. Wanting a character to die just because you don't like them isn't a good thing. "
is not a good thing but is something people see a lot in fandoms, hell people said dany should die so the mantle can be to the right person, killing the scrappy is something that happen
"But in terms of the MCU itself: We already had Ironman and War machine. And falcon."
they still have warmachine? I don thing he is going to come back after what happen to him in civil war, dosent it?
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"So, i'm hoping that the post-Infinity War MCU films go on a smaller scale. We've had enough Earth/Universe threats like the Chitauri, Ultron, Ego, etc, lets get some villains who, while still major threats, are out to benefit themselves. Im thinking along the lines of Grey Gargoyle, Mysterio, The Wrecking Crew, Slug (though I dont know HOW you'd pull that off in live action), The Serpent Society, etc.
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is and issue of dramátic moment, they "kill" warmachine without killing him and I feel if they return him to normal so far it would cheap the efect, even when the movie did a little bit in the end.
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yeah, they will have to go low key for a while
edited 20th May '17 4:58:01 PM by unknowing
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I'm not really familiar with Riri Williams, but the thing that some people protesting the backlash about the "Mary Sue" term don't get, is that whether a character "fits it" or not is really beyond the point entirely. The term itself is just way too loaded with baggage to be particularly useful, all it does is derail conversations about whether a character fits it or not. Because it's so loaded, it tends to make conversations more adversarial or hostile which is counterproductive to a healthy discussion.
So, instead of using it as a lazy shorthand for a character you don't like, you should just say "I don't care for this character, I feel that they are poorly written because xyz".
For the record: I'm not entirely opposed to Danny eventually dying, but killing him now doesn't work. He has just started his journey to become the Iron Fist. This would be like Luke passing the torch to Rey immediately after ANH.
"All you Fascists bound to lose.""More of an idea of passing on the Iron Fist legacy, nothing like saying "Grr I hate Ironheart and want her dead"."
the show wasnt even started and maybe it wasnt you but someone coment about the dead showing the stupidity of white man playing asian role, even them is pretty much "kill the chararter to cut this crap" in which Alley just propose a simpler route(make him luke parner and that it)
like other troper said, people dosent really want to kill the chararter just kick him out of the story to never return and death is easy way, is the issue with fiction a times.
"he term itself is just way too loaded with baggage to be particularly useful"
the term is also use for people who want to said they dont like the chararter but are too lazy to come out with engaging response, I dont like rey that much because while charming is a little bit bland and Korra was unlikable in season 2 but saying "she is a mary sue" is shorter and easier.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I don't have a stake in this, but it seems to me that a big part of the problem with the 'X is a mary sue, they should die' argument is a lot of people (on both sides, granted) seem to state their opinion as objective fact. Which causes them to be very offended when someone disagrees with their statement. Which causes the conversation to turn very nasty, and before you know it folks on both sides are metaphorically screaming obscenities and throwing their own feces at each other. Which doesn't really accomplish anything, except making them and their chosen fandom look stupid to everybody else.
That's what I'm saying. I'm not using the term lightly. I'm using the term because she's a Mary Sue and I dislike her character because of that. That's what people here seem to misunderstand.
Also, I never said that they should kill her. Just fade her into obscurity.
Yes, I dislike her because she's awfully written. I dislike her because she's way too good at everything, always. I dislike her because she has no personality of her own, no struggle of her own. I dislike her because she represents everything I loathe about the whole "replacing beloved characters with alternative/hipper/younger versions of themselves". I dislike her because, for no reason whatsoever, Tony, the most possessive and protective dude on the planet, had no issue with her stealing his tech.
When done right, it's awesome (Kamala, Miles, maybe America Chavez, and she's a big maybe). But when done wrong, we get a character like Riri.
But hey, whatever.
Huh. I was pretty sure that she hacked and leaked those files herself. Can't find the comic to fact-check neither. Oh, well, my bad.
No, but she did reverse-engineered his tech, at age 15. While being at MIT. And not only succeeding, but making an armour that was vastly superiour than Tony's very first.
Well, it is Bendis Speak. Being witty is kind of the norm.
And god, I hate Bendis Speak.
Yeah, tell that to Tony, who has been dealing with people "founding" or "borrowing" or "being inspired by" his technology. The dude hates that other people use his tech, and I don't get why this kid is so special that he doesn't care.
Yeah, a lot of characters are Mary Sues. We're just not talking about them right now. We're talking about Riri, so...
I don't really have an opinion on Riri Williams myself, but I don't think the issue is that you are being misunderstood. Because you could have just said all of this to begin with instead of calling her a Mary Sue and it would have led to a better discussion. See my earlier post about why it's not a useful term to apply to any character these days, regardless of whether it's appropriate or not.
edited 20th May '17 5:45:06 PM by Draghinazzo
Yeah Mary Sue is usually just a catch all for "female character I don't like" so I find it impossible to take seriously.
I think Feige had said something about potentially trying more intimate movies after Avengers 4 and that they didn't feel any particular pressure to intentionally try to make things bigger. He cited the fact that the airport fight in Civil War is probably the biggest action scene they've done yet it's actually much smaller in scale and lower and lower in stakes than the final battles in Avengers and Age of Ultron.
edited 20th May '17 5:39:01 PM by comicwriter

And killing them off because of petty reasons isn't too far?
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?