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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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I'm not expecting it to be huge but AOS wasn't either and it grew to be one of the best parts of the MCU. Inhumans could also be great although stuff like this
has me a bit concerned. I hope that's not talking about Inhumans.
Yikes Inhumans seems to be the frontrunner in the comments at least. It'd also make sense since the show in question is supposed to be very expensive.
Honestly, this Inhuman push has been such a wash that I'm wondering if they're only doing the TV show out of obligation. They tried to replace the X-Men with the Inhumans and the fans rose up and roundly told Marvel to go fuck themselves, and the movie's been cancelled. I feel like the hype train derailed already.
They should've expanded Bakuto's plot while trimming down the first five boring ass episodes, and cast him with a different actor who can actually act. The Meachums, as fun as they are, honestly feel somewhat disconnected from some of the plot. Finn Jones's acting keeps going back and forth between genuinely good (most of his argument with Colleen in this episode) to bad (his interrogation of Gao in this episode sounded like a badly dubbed shonen anime). The fight scenes are horribly done for the most part. For every good idea there is, there's another bad idea there to creep up and create a weird imbalanced amalgamation. I can't even call this a good show, it's so unbalanced that it's infuriating. At one point I'd thought either Daredevil Season 2 or Agent Carter Season 2 was the worst offering from Marvel's TV side, but this? This is even worse.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?See, that's what I said. Never mind condensing the first five episodes down into three episodes, I'd say cut them down to one and give some of these later characters and plotlines room to breathe.
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I was tentatively pretty excited about GOTG, just hoping it would work. It felt like a big risk, but when it came out, it actually felt like they'd taken some big risks in terms of what they did in the movie. Inhumans is a big gamble in terms of the money put into it, but it seems like they're really hedging their bets and playing it safe. There's just been nothing to get excited about.
If you're worried people aren't going to respond to a giant dog with a tuning fork on his head— put Lockjaw on the cover of your promo materials. Dare people to dismiss your show because of it, to make fun of it, the way they might a CG raccoon standing on the shoulder of a tree monster and brandishing a gun that's bigger than he is. At least that would get people talking about it. What you can't do is hide away all the comic book elements in the most comic-book of shows. This was the problem with Iron Fist as well— refusing to embrace the source material, constantly shying away from the mystical kung fu, the bright green costume, K'un-Lun in general. You don't ease people in with properties like this.
edited 16th May '17 12:47:38 PM by Unsung
Considering Scott Buck is going from Iron Fist to Inhumans and the costumes look like shit, I think I have every reason to be apprehensive towards it being good. At best we'll probably get some good acting. The guy playing Maximus got some good buzz from the audio teaser.
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Marvel also didn't actively make everyone hate the Guardians on the lead up to their film either.
And guardians got a big budget and a creative director who while risky, had a unique style that made Guardians feel refreshing.
Inhumans got a tv budget and the guy who ruined Dexter as the show runner.
Black Bolt will have a mask though, according to some footage they showed (but didn't release).
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Not to mention looking dumb and cheap as hell in general. It looks more like cosplay than actual thing.
edited 16th May '17 1:18:49 PM by DeadlyAssassin
Children of Dievas - my webcomic about the Northern CrusadesBlack Bolt is superhero royalty. He dresses like a superhero becauses he's the king superhero.
Look, if they can take a bright blue Alabamian with a red fin on his head that glows while he whistles people to death and make that work, people will accept this. People are in the right state of mind to accept a lot out of their superhero media. Just put a little faith in your audience and the work you're adapting.
edited 16th May '17 1:22:39 PM by Unsung
I understand why Lee and Kirby gave Black Bolt a mask.
I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense from an in-universe perspective, except for when he needs to use his tuning fork.
I mean, I'm gonna watch the show regardless-I have always liked the inhumans as a concept, Black Bolt in particular (he as a bunch of great moments in the comics like destroying an impenetrable force field around his city and freeing his people from brainwashing in the space of a few pages), they just don't need masks.
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Speaking of which, what's going to look more aesthetically pleasing; a cool, awesome mask that just happens to have a little tuning fork as part of the ensemble, or a big ol' tuning fork slapped to his noggin? I think you can see why at least in the comics he still has the freaking mask.
edited 16th May '17 1:31:21 PM by kkhohoho

It's swamp gunk. He got a little waterlogged.
They should have put him in a jar of uncooked rice.
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