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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The original comic had a better premise, yes — that all superheroes are inherently dangerous, therefore they need to register and get trained before either working for SHIELD or retiring — but the writing botched it by having Tony immediately turn around and create a secret gulag in the Negative Zone and then clone his friend and so on (the movie fixed this by having the prison the creation of General Ross, who I totally believe would make a Guantanamo for supers). Both Tony and Cap should have had good points and bad points, like the movie, but Tony was so overblown in being an asshole that it just didn't work.
It took Matt Fraction writing Tony Stark and literally erasing his memories of the Civil War in order to redeem him.
edited 6th May '17 7:01:53 PM by alliterator
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Okay, I'm sorry. It's hard to tell intent or tone in text and, as I'm sure we're all aware, thingsc can get ugly when debating these movies.
So, sorry again.I'm too defensive given that I am coming at this from the obvious opposition side. I don't want to be brushed off as some mindless trolll, I do want to try and engage in arguments about the quality of these movies.Kinda feltlike that was happening so I jumped the gun.
Adric: I think ben affleck is going to stare a superhero movie....daredevil I guess, I hope for him, shame DC didnt get him.
"I agree with that assessment100%. They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot is not a criticism I use often but it defines this movie. "
I dont think they wasted the plot is just using a debate about acountbaility really goes well for the genre who thrives in being anti authoritaran and people taking justice on their on hands, I just thin the movie is better when its cut from the other, the more continuity it reference, the worst it get.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"The usual issue with you, Nikkolas, is more than you can come across as condescending very often in these arguments. Eg. You once tried to argue that maybe people just really don't understand the hidden brilliance of Batman v. Superman, implicitly because they're too stubborn or too stupid to see it, which is the kind of thing that does nothing except insult everyone you're trying to engage in a debate with. And that's never the best tactic.
As for actual superhero news: I thought Chris Evans is rumored to be playing Human Torch in the upcoming Fantastic Four movie. Good thing too, because that man can't play a serious role to save his life. He should stay playing dumb jocks, that's where he's best.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."![]()
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Your post made me curious. As you have no doubt noticed, I like the DCEU which puts me at odds with RT it seems. But anyway, hearing those scores made me Google and I found this. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/comics_and_graphic_novels_vs_the_critics/#
I can't express how much it hurts me to see Superman fucking Returns on this list and not MOS. Why God, why?
And WANTED? REALLY? It has fuck all to do with the comic! I know this is off-topic but we don'thavea "general comic book movies" thread.
I ain't trusting this goddam site.
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True. I know I've said some dumb, assholish things. I was too....jaded and wanted people to like the movie I liked and that wasn't going to happen. It gets frustrating. It's no excuse but it was my reasoning at the time. Still, I'm sorry.
But anyway, why are they trying AGAIN to make another F4 movie?Just give up.
edited 6th May '17 7:47:43 PM by Nikkolas
Because the most interesting idea in the comic was how supervillains united and killed all the heroes and then took over the world.
I never said it was a good comic but that doesn't make the movie any better just because it's different. It just makes it both a bad adaptation and a bad movie.
edited 6th May '17 9:05:02 PM by Nikkolas
Both the comic and the movie were completely shit.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Take Blade Runner, for example. It's an adaptation of the Philip K. Dick novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, but it changes things quite a bit. It keeps the central premise — the main character is hired to hunt down and kill replicants — but changes nearly everything else. Is it still an adaptation? Yes.
Wanted adapted some bits from the comic — namely, it was about a guy recruited into a group of villains. It changes pretty much everything else. Is it still an adaptation? Sure, just a looser one. Just like Captain America: Civil War was a loose adaptation of the Civil War comic. Just like Logan is loosely based on Old Man Logan.
...man, they've loosely adapted a shit ton of Mark Millar's comics, haven't they?
You fools are just making him more powerful.
Now his booby trapped womb book is going to be a movie.
You fools. You damned fools.
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Found this while Googling to see if what I had heard was right.That Winter Soldier was considered the best MCU movie. Bucky was one of the best parts of CW, figured I should maybe watch Winter Soldier.
But in the meantime, Iron Man 3 being in second place seems like a controversial choice.
It is nice to see Incredible Hulk way down at the bottom.

edited 6th May '17 7:01:23 PM by AdricDePsycho
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