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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#69926: May 4th 2017 at 3:38:24 PM

He says they're "chattering like monkeys", but the unfortunate implication remains.

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#69927: May 4th 2017 at 3:41:28 PM

You guys really don't know how to listen, do you?

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69928: May 4th 2017 at 3:43:23 PM

The chattering monkeys line is one I can almost physically see the writer's intention and how it slipped up. It's exactly the type of bizarre old-school Kung Fu movie insult someone like Lei Kung the Thunderer would throw at someone. Like calling your student "young grasshopper" and things of the sort.

The writers just happened to overlook how calling a room of mixed race students "chattering monkeys" would sound like.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69929: May 4th 2017 at 3:52:37 PM

I actually like the fight choreography, but it is obvious that neither the actors nor the stuntmen had enough time to train for them and the editing is rough. And yes, I know that usually rough editing is a sign that the material is bad, but I don't think that this is the only problem here. The editing in general is very questionable (honestly, it REALLY frustrates me how often the show has truly beautiful and interesting camera work, but it is impossible to enjoy it because it nearly always cuts away more or less immediately)....the drunken master fight mostly works so well because the edits there are done way better. I mean, not exactly surprising if you consider who directed the episode.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#69930: May 4th 2017 at 4:06:54 PM

the drunken master fight mostly works so well because the edits there are done way better. I mean, not exactly surprising if you consider who directed the episode.
They really should have let Kevin Tancharoen do the entire show. Have him direct a big fight scene for each episode or something. That would have made the show so much more fun.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69931: May 4th 2017 at 4:14:56 PM

I stand by my statement the showrunner of this show should have been RZA (who directed episode 6, the episode I still consider to be the best, what with the Mortal Kombat-esque tournament shit). He knows what's up.

Also his directorial debut was a film called The Man with the Iron Fists come on. It's meant to be.

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#69932: May 4th 2017 at 4:21:09 PM

Iron Man With The Iron Fists sounds like it should have been a cartoon from the '60s like Superfriends or (Harvey) Birdman and The Galaxy Trio.

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#69933: May 4th 2017 at 4:22:12 PM

to me it's sound like that Musketeer movie.

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#69934: May 4th 2017 at 4:28:03 PM

I'll only allow the RZA to be the showrunner if he doesn't, like, film the entire season and then prevent it from being put on Netflix for eighty-eight years.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69935: May 4th 2017 at 4:31:59 PM

I actually felt that the RZA directed episode was a little bit over the top and off-tune. It was like the show was slipping into another genre for one episode...I mean, the drunken master fight was crazy, too, but there the balance was way better.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69936: May 4th 2017 at 4:33:44 PM

If you ask me, as someone who's a big fan of Iron Fist (his current run is pretty awesome btw), he didn't go over the top enough.

Scythe strangling a man with a microphone cord was just the kind of shit I needed.

I'll only allow the RZA to be the showrunner if he doesn't, like, film the entire season and then prevent it from being put on Netflix for eighty-eight years.

I love how every time you make that joke you make the time period longer.

edited 4th May '17 4:34:31 PM by Gaon

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
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#69937: May 4th 2017 at 4:35:51 PM

It was like the show suddenly morphed into a kung fu action series for a minute there, what the hell

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#69938: May 4th 2017 at 4:37:26 PM

[up][up]

I'm not. The RZA legally kept the most recent Wu-Tang Clan album from receiving an official release for eighty-eight years. The only copy of it is in the possession of Martin Shkreli.

edited 4th May '17 4:37:40 PM by AdricDePsycho

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69939: May 4th 2017 at 4:40:33 PM

You told the story. It's pretty damn shitty of him.

I guess I misremembered the date, I remembered you saying something like sixty-six years last time you said that.

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#69940: May 4th 2017 at 4:45:21 PM

Something about artistic integrity or something. The RZA is really eccentric. I kinda want him to show up in Luke Cage so that Luke can punch him for the eighty-eight year wait while Method Man laughs and munches on some popcorn or something.

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#69941: May 4th 2017 at 4:47:54 PM

That's unreal. I can't imagine someone doing that myself.

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#69942: May 4th 2017 at 4:54:52 PM

You know what I want?

Somebody to love!

Somebody to love!

Somebody, somebody, somebody, somebody, can anybody find mmmmmmeeeeeeeee...somebody tttttooooooooooo llloooooovvvveeee?!

There, your annual Queen song.

At the very least, I want to see Angel Punisher, just for the "wtf" factor.

edited 4th May '17 5:38:42 PM by fredhot16

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#69943: May 4th 2017 at 6:11:29 PM

Scythe's introductory scene was both badass and probably the funniest moment in the show for me. That or the Zhou Cheng fight.

I hope Zhou returns next season, with a larger role. Would help make up for his actor not getting the leading role.

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#69944: May 4th 2017 at 6:21:19 PM

I feel like they should've made the first two episodes into one episode. It would've made the pacing so much easier to deal with.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69945: May 5th 2017 at 1:52:24 AM

[up] It gets better...at the end of the day I prefer it if a show starts slow and then picks up the pace instead of it taking off running and then suddenly starts to drag towards the end. It is so difficult to get invested again for the finale then.

Ao S was the same this season...the Ghost Rider arc started too slow for my taste, but once everything was shuffled in the right place it took off running and never stopped. (Honestly, I have no idea how I am supposed to deal with the waiting time...I just hope that ABC will at least announce their schedule soon.)

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#69946: May 5th 2017 at 4:55:42 AM

That's unreal. I can't imagine someone doing that myself.
Wait 'till I tell you about the Future Library project. Basically the most pretentious project I've ever heard of.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#69947: May 5th 2017 at 6:13:26 AM

Whole lotta nothing.

edited 5th May '17 6:19:32 AM by comicwriter

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#69949: May 5th 2017 at 7:57:38 AM

@Pacing in Iron Fist: This show is weird for me because it seems to have the opposite problem of the other three shows. In the other shows the first half of the season is exciting and interesting and then it gets bogged down around episode 7 or 8. In Iron Fist the show has a slow beginning but shoots up in quality during episode 6.

[up][up]So how exactly is this Imax showing going to work? Is it basically a low budget movie that gets continued on television?

edited 5th May '17 7:59:26 AM by Kostya

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#69950: May 5th 2017 at 8:39:59 AM

Makes sense. I've seen a lot of shows use a movie as a premiere or finale, then chop it up into episode-sized chunks for rerun airing.

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