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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#69877: May 4th 2017 at 12:29:14 PM

Jon Anderson?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Anderson

Short version: Famous English musician, was the lead singer of progressive rock band Yes (Roundabout is the one song most people seem to know), has a really big love for Asian philosophy (mostly Hindu I think) to the point where Yes's infamous album Tales from Topographic Oceans (a double album where the shortest song is 19 minutes long) is based off of four Hindu philosophical concepts that he found in a footnote of a book he was reading. He's kind of chill, pretty much a hippy, and I'm pretty sure he's eternally high on hash.

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#69878: May 4th 2017 at 12:38:18 PM

Jon Anderson was an identity Danny briefly used in the comics, wasn't it?

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#69879: May 4th 2017 at 12:42:26 PM

Was it? Maybe the writers of the Iron Fist comics were Yes fans.

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#69880: May 4th 2017 at 12:49:53 PM

Could be. Scott Buck seems about the right age for that and to remember the horror stories about Bellevue in the '80s.

Though it might be an attempted Matrix reference. Neo's passport said he was Thomas Anderson in the interrogation with Smith, but wasn't there another document somewhere that said John Anderson in the same scene? Can't find it right now.

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#69881: May 4th 2017 at 12:52:02 PM

OK, so I've already been spoiled quite a bit on every Netflix show by now, so I've gotta ask: how does Joy Meachum of all people turn evil by the end of the season?

edited 4th May '17 12:55:12 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#69882: May 4th 2017 at 12:52:41 PM

The Daredevil costume looks alright in still shots, but several things seem off in motion. You become aware that it seems like he has sculpted chest padding, and the headpiece feels like a face mask attached to a helmet rather than one continuous item. The area around his mouth seems restrained, exaggerating every expression his mouth makes (it's hard to tell if he's grimacing in pain, angry in resolve or breathing really heavy). I recall it being rather awkward in the first costume reveal, as he is just doing superhero poses to show off the costume and it's just really not that impressive.

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#69883: May 4th 2017 at 12:53:24 PM

Copious amounts of daddy issues and a sense of resentment.

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#69884: May 4th 2017 at 12:55:25 PM

Just gonna move my edit over here.

Jesus Christ, Joy is stupid. You don't believe Danny when he's saying stuff about your childhood, but the moment you get a bag of M&M's without the brown ones in them, you break down crying because both of you hated the brown ones?

[up]

If it's properly foreshadowed and developed, then I don't see why it's labelled as Shocking Swerve on the show's YMMV page.

edited 4th May '17 12:56:18 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#69885: May 4th 2017 at 12:56:22 PM

You really want to know?

It's because Joy's actually a lot like her father. You know what they say about good intentions, right? She's a kind person at heart, but her need to succeed, as well as her love of her family, is stronger than her conscience. Basically, she gets the job done, no matter what it is. And it's still somewhat ambiguous as to whether or not she's turned at the end, just heavily implied that she's going to. What with Ward and Harold lying to her for years, she's off on her own, and there's a pretty big hint dropped that the Hand is going to get its hooks into her.

edited 4th May '17 12:57:09 PM by Unsung

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#69886: May 4th 2017 at 12:57:00 PM

Hoo hoo hoo, this is gonna be fun to watch.

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#69887: May 4th 2017 at 1:02:37 PM

The tragedy of the Meachum family is one of the best parts about Iron Fist.

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#69888: May 4th 2017 at 1:04:27 PM

Even in these first couple of episodes, I'm getting Shakespeare vibes about how fucked up the Meachums are. I fucking love Harold so much.

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#69889: May 4th 2017 at 1:25:54 PM

If it's properly foreshadowed and developed, then I don't see why it's labelled as Shocking Swerve on the show's YMMV page.

Primarily because this show has a burning Hate Dom, to be honest. What Unsung said is mostly correct. The YMMV page also has the nonsensical complaint that Davos's introductory scene is a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment because whoever watched the show thought that he was Bullseye.

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#69890: May 4th 2017 at 1:28:33 PM

That entry was removed a while back. Should the entry under Shocking Swerve be put up for discussion?

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#69893: May 4th 2017 at 1:54:04 PM

I disagree with your opinion about the shows nosediving in quality in the second half in regards to Daredevil's first season - I felt like that one was pretty strong from beginning to end, even if it did have its shortcomings.

edited 4th May '17 1:54:34 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#69894: May 4th 2017 at 2:06:33 PM

So I just got to the scene with Colleen and Danny sparring in her dojo, and Jesus Christ, the Unfortunate Implications...

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#69895: May 4th 2017 at 2:09:43 PM

[up]Eh?

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#69896: May 4th 2017 at 2:13:11 PM

White guy curb-stomping Asian woman because his kung fu out kung fus her's or whatever. I know a lot of people criticized Iron Fist for shit like this, but Christ, I didn't think it'd be that bad...

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#69897: May 4th 2017 at 2:18:44 PM

It is actually not clear what Joy's motivations are at the end...it is kept deliberately ambiguous.

Don't worry about this. Just accept that every single character in Iron Fist is in some sort of grey area...and that includes Danny. Joy might have morals, but she can be positively ruthless if she had to.

[up] It's not that bad in later scenes, where they conservation is more an exchange. You have to consider that Coleen doesn't practice Kung Fu. Her fighting style is very different from Danny's. More aggressive and weapon oriented.

edited 4th May '17 2:20:04 PM by Swanpride

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#69898: May 4th 2017 at 2:19:12 PM

I mean, if they cast anyone else of any race as Danny is it still awkward? Or is it just Danny being better because he has superior, more extensive training? You make it racist.

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#69899: May 4th 2017 at 2:24:35 PM

Colleen's a master of karate, kempo (which incorporates elements of Shaolin kung fu), and jiujitsu. She's not just a weapons expert. The ease with which Danny beats her feels unearned.

edited 4th May '17 2:28:12 PM by Unsung

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69900: May 4th 2017 at 2:25:03 PM

[up][up] Well, he is a little bit annoying and arrogant in the scene he is referring to...but he gets exactly the reaction he deserves. Coleen really doesn't appreciate him butting in at all and keeps telling him off.

edited 4th May '17 2:25:49 PM by Swanpride


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