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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#69851: May 4th 2017 at 10:23:31 AM

what kind of dinosaur we talking about it?

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#69852: May 4th 2017 at 10:24:26 AM

[up]Old Lace, a genetically engineered dinosaur from the 87th century.

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#69853: May 4th 2017 at 10:24:37 AM

A psychic genetically engineered raptor

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#69854: May 4th 2017 at 10:26:49 AM

Her.

The Runaways just wouldn't be the same without her.

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#69855: May 4th 2017 at 10:28:25 AM

Sometimes, I just fucking LOVE comics.

They're a breeding ground for the stupidest and most awesome ideas imaginable.

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#69856: May 4th 2017 at 10:28:59 AM

OK ,that looks kind of cool

Is it like their mascot or something?

(seen the films,never so much as read the comics )

edited 4th May '17 10:29:21 AM by Ultimatum

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#69857: May 4th 2017 at 10:33:45 AM

No, she's a full member of the team. She was created by Gertrude's parents and psychically bonded to her. The central concept of the Runaways is that each kid is the child of a different type of supervillain. One's parents are mad scientists, another's are crime lords, another's are alien conquerors, etc. etc. All their parents are gathered together in this secret coalition. The kids discover the truth, flip out and...well, run away.

Gert's parents are time-travelers. They commissioned Old Lace in the 87th century to be a bodyguard for their daughter.

edited 4th May '17 10:35:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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#69859: May 4th 2017 at 10:41:38 AM

Black Bolt doesn't have his tuning fork.

I don't care about the costume. Superhero costumes are frequently dumb anyway. But the tuning fork!

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#69861: May 4th 2017 at 10:44:28 AM

If you're not gonna even try the costumes there's really no point in making something as bombastic as the Inhumans. Dumb is dumb but these just look boring.

Of course, this is the same man who gave us the thrilling adventures of Shirtless Business Man.

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#69862: May 4th 2017 at 10:50:45 AM

EW's promo pictures nearly always look bland. I would wait until the first trailer to see what it all looks like it.

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#69863: May 4th 2017 at 10:51:26 AM

There have also been reports Black Bolt has a mask at some point.

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#69865: May 4th 2017 at 11:55:51 AM

Stop-motion Guardians of the Galaxy/MCU in general. The Fantastic Mr Richards, or something. Somebody get on that.

Similar to Shirtless Business Man not even giving us any nod to the comics costume, Blackagar not having the mask in the Inhumans promos makes me feel like Scott Buck's not getting the appeal of these characters yet again, which makes me question why they'd keep tapping him as showrunner...but Black Bolt looks great compared to Medusa. Maybe she'll look better when she's lit (...maybe), but those are not the right colours for the screen. And even if I actually sort of like Karnak's facial tattoos here, and this take on Gorgon's poncho, this is really underselling the whole idea of 'superhero royalty' for me.

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#69866: May 4th 2017 at 12:04:00 PM

This is pretty much inevitable when you try to put superheroes into regular superhero costumes. Medusa's outfit looks like it's made of actual spandex. That's always a mistake. Always.

edited 4th May '17 12:09:18 PM by TobiasDrake

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#69867: May 4th 2017 at 12:06:32 PM

OK, starting on episode two of Iron Fist. What kind of idiots run the mental hospital they put Danny in, the same dumbasses who run Arkham? Who the hell lets a patient with murderous and suicidal impulses roam free from their room with no supervision?

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#69868: May 4th 2017 at 12:09:28 PM

DareDevil has a similar problem. That sneaky mugger look he had back in season 1 might not have been the most Superhero look in the world, but f*cking hell, I cannot take him seriously when he puts that ridiculous devil mask on.

I'd actually be fine with the rest of the suit if he'd just...do something about that awful mask. It's hard to pin down exactly what's wrong with it. It makes his head look chubby and gives him this whole Living Cardboard Cutout look. And then he uses his Serious Whisper Voice to preach about the sanctity of life and it's like, "I cannot deal with being preached at by a man wearing little plastic devil horns right now, I'm sorry."

edited 4th May '17 12:11:30 PM by TobiasDrake

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#69869: May 4th 2017 at 12:13:59 PM

So Danny's fake passport has his name as "Jon Anderson". Kinda like the lead singer of Yes.

Come to think of it, they have a lot in common. They're kinda pretentious, they have a huge interest in Asian culture and philosophy to uncomfortable levels, but they're both kind of adorable and fun. The biggest difference is that Danny knows martial arts and Jon Anderson made three of the greatest prog rock albums of all time (and one of the worst ones which I'm never forgiving him for, fuck Tales from Topographic Oceans and everything about it).

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#69870: May 4th 2017 at 12:15:10 PM

I have no problems with DD's costume but I can understand people who do.

Iron Fist's however, has often worn literally green pants, belt and mask.

Ain't that hard, folks.

Also: On the psychiatrist's defense, it's pretty evident that guy wasn't supposed to be roaming around.

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#69871: May 4th 2017 at 12:17:21 PM

[up][up][up] Ben Affleck's Daredevil had some problems, but his costume was great. Having an open space between the neck and collar would've been a good thing to carry over. Maybe not so much the leather. And I guess Ben Affleck just knows how to look like a superhero. You can question his acting abilities elsewhere, but he does have that visual eye.

[up][up][up][up] Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking with the mental facility. If the show were more heightened, if, like Daredevil, this was obviously New York in the '80s with rampant crime, a mugger on every corner, and a grim view of mental illness— if the show was Gotham, basically— then it might have almost worked to have a funny little mental patient who tried to murder you as your new hospital buddy, but not in a show where it's obviously the mid-2010s everywhere else.

edited 4th May '17 12:34:56 PM by Unsung

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#69872: May 4th 2017 at 12:19:05 PM

I feel like absolutely nobody is gonna know what the fuck I'm talking about when I mention Jon Anderson from Yes.

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#69874: May 4th 2017 at 12:20:31 PM

Similar to Shirtless Business Man not even giving us any nod to the comics costume, Blackagar not having the mask in the Inhumans promos makes me feel like Scott Buck's not getting the appeal of these characters yet again, which makes me question why they'd keep tapping him as showrunner...but Black Bolt looks great compared to Medusa. Maybe she'll look better when she's lit (...maybe), but those are not the right colours for the screen. And even if I actually sort of like Karnak's facial tattoos here, and this take on Gorgon's poncho, this is really underselling the whole idea of 'superhero royalty' for me.

Particularly when this has the misfortune of dropping so soon after the Ragnarok trailer, where one of the big praises was that it embraces the comic book visuals.

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#69875: May 4th 2017 at 12:21:19 PM

This hospital is giving me A Clockwork Orange vibes...

And I'm guessing the guy who just tried to kill Danny and is now trying to be his friend is gonna die like the homeless guy from the first episode.

edited 4th May '17 12:21:50 PM by AdricDePsycho

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