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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#69776: May 3rd 2017 at 3:25:40 PM

[up][up] Ok, now I really need that to be canon.

edited 3rd May '17 3:26:07 PM by eligram

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69777: May 3rd 2017 at 3:25:49 PM

Doom, much like MODOK and non-Fraction-Mandarin, is that type of deliciously absurd villain only comics can provide.

Toning him down is a disservice to the character.

edited 3rd May '17 3:26:48 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69778: May 3rd 2017 at 3:26:56 PM

[up][up] Hell, he already writes My Little Pony fanfiction!

No, really, I swear, that actually happened.

I am NOT making it up, that was a thing!

edited 3rd May '17 3:28:34 PM by fredhot16

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#69779: May 3rd 2017 at 3:30:03 PM

@Tobias: Holy crap, that is the greatest description of possibly anything I've ever read.

This song needs more love.
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#69780: May 3rd 2017 at 3:32:18 PM

[up][up] I know. I meant the whole Dr. Doom barging in her room just to tell her to stop writing terrible fan fiction. That would be so glorious.

edited 3rd May '17 3:33:23 PM by eligram

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69781: May 3rd 2017 at 3:33:13 PM

[up] And it'd be through the window because DOCTOR DOOM DOESN'T USE DOORS! THEY ARE FOR LOWLY PEASANTS!

Wait, YOU KNEW?

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69782: May 3rd 2017 at 3:38:22 PM

No one in comics uses doors. In X-Men in particular you could make a Drinking Game out of how every single villain arrives by blowing up a wall even when the door is right there.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69783: May 3rd 2017 at 3:38:49 PM

[up] That should be somebody's superpower. They can enter any building but only by not using the door.

edited 3rd May '17 3:40:07 PM by fredhot16

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69784: May 3rd 2017 at 3:41:36 PM

Yes, the rumour mill killed Stan Lee off already multiple times...I think the last time two years ago...I won't believe it unless Marvel makes an actual press release.

Otherwise, Stan Lee has already filmed multiple cameos in advance, but if the one in Got G Vol 2 would be his last one, it would be the perfect way to go out.

And avoid Fant4stic at all cost unless you are really curious. This movie has a boring, self-indulgent first act which leads to nowhere and does nothing to make you care about the incredible stupid characters (I think the high point is the claim that nobody really knows anything about the scientists who made the inventions needed for great achievements - yeah, right, because absolute nobody knows who Victor van Braun was. Or Albert Einstein. Or Tesla), a second act which stops abruptly after less than five minutes and then a rushed third act which seems to belong into a 90s b-movie. It is a mess, an not even an entertaining one. Not even "spot the wig" can distract from how depressing and boring the whole thing is.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#69785: May 3rd 2017 at 4:08:04 PM

It's an interesting bit of hindsight when Victor complains everybody hears about the astronauts and nobody hears about the scientists, and then a few years later another movie premieres that points there was a certain reason for why said scientists were left out of the spotlight...

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69786: May 3rd 2017 at 4:08:49 PM

[up] That's what Marvel movies need nowadays! Racism!

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#69787: May 3rd 2017 at 4:48:46 PM

yeah, right, because absolute nobody knows who Victor van Braun was
I can't decide if I love or hate this mistake, much like if I love or hate Wernher von Braun.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#69788: May 3rd 2017 at 4:51:32 PM

Some have harsh words for this man of renown, but I think our attitude should be one of gratitude, like the widows and cripples in old London town, who owe their large pensions to Wernher von Braun.

edited 3rd May '17 4:51:55 PM by Unsung

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69789: May 3rd 2017 at 4:55:26 PM

Oh, one more thing regarding the Defenders trailer.

"My name is Matthew Murdock. I'm your attorney."

Welp, guess Jessica's going to spend a large part of the show in prison.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69790: May 3rd 2017 at 4:56:23 PM

[up] Hey, we don't know that he's a bad lawyer when he does some actual lawyering!

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69791: May 3rd 2017 at 5:07:45 PM

Apparently the entire first season of Daredevil has been rendered non-canon while I was away.

That should be somebody's superpower. They can enter any building but only by not using the door.

Call him The Trespasser.

edited 3rd May '17 5:09:17 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69792: May 3rd 2017 at 5:09:57 PM

Matt: Hello, Foggy.
Foggy: No. No, no, no.
Matt: I took a case.
Foggy: Stop it. Get out of my office, we don't work together anym-
Matt: But I'm going to be busy punching people today, so I'm giving it to you.
Foggy: For fuck's sake, stop taking random cases just so you can pawn them all off on me!

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69793: May 3rd 2017 at 5:10:44 PM

[up] See? They're still great friends!

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69794: May 3rd 2017 at 5:11:57 PM

I had the hopes that the Defenders would somehow have Matt v. Foggy in court as a subplot. And they mend their friendship during this epic battle of lawyers before Matt just destroys Foggy's case.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69795: May 3rd 2017 at 5:12:58 PM

But they're both defense lawyers.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#69796: May 3rd 2017 at 5:13:57 PM

[up][up] Ah, like Phoenix Wright vs. Apollo Justice in Spirit of Justice?

[up] It doesn't mean that Foggy can't sue Murdock.

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#69797: May 3rd 2017 at 5:14:46 PM

"Well, buddy, you torpedoed our case, which is about par for the course for you lately. But it was still a hell of a close."

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69798: May 3rd 2017 at 5:18:14 PM

If they're both defense lawyers, wouldn't they have a LAWYER DUEL if one's client sued the other's?

Admittedly I know little about law. But I am the best goddamn bird lawyer there is.

Ah, like Phoenix Wright vs. Apollo Justice in Spirit of Justice?

Also, yes. Exactly like that.

edited 3rd May '17 5:20:00 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69799: May 3rd 2017 at 6:21:49 PM

[up]I can clearly see you know nothing about the law. Seems like you have a tenuous grasp on the English language in general.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#69800: May 3rd 2017 at 6:40:25 PM

Might I just say I lost a lot of respect for Whedon due to Avengers 1. I never watched Age of Ultron but apparently Whedon himself hates it and left on pretty rough terms with Marvel and they have in turn shit all over his decisions/ideas.

I'm not sure how to feel about this.


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