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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69751: May 3rd 2017 at 2:35:48 PM

Get used to the greyness in Iron Fist (hey, this might explain why the intro is not green, which is the one issue I have with it). This is actually why I like the show so much despite its flaws, it doesn't allow you to put the characters in handy little boxes.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#69752: May 3rd 2017 at 2:37:17 PM

Stan Lee.

Dying.

REACTION?

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#69753: May 3rd 2017 at 2:41:53 PM

I don't think they have any reason to kill off Stan Lee. It would be a pointless death like Quicksilver's.

edited 3rd May '17 2:42:43 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69754: May 3rd 2017 at 2:44:01 PM

[up] Has someone started the hoax again?

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#69755: May 3rd 2017 at 2:46:40 PM

[up] Wait, somebody tried to say that Stan Lee died already? I was just stating a hypothetical situation.

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#69756: May 3rd 2017 at 2:46:52 PM

I'm still hoping Stan Lee will basically do this in Infinity War, even if he isn't the Watcher. Basically pluck the heroes out of the Darkest Hour to give them a fighting chance and explain them what they need to do.

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#69757: May 3rd 2017 at 2:52:06 PM

  • Steve: Who are you?
  • Stan Lee: In a way, I guess you could say I'm the father of all you Marvel superheroes. Excelsior!
  • Thanos: You know, technically, you're the father of Marvel supervillains too. How come we never get any cool cameos or supporting moments?
  • Stan Lee: Well, uh....
  • Thanos: Why doesn't Daddy love us? Huh? HUH?
  • Stan Lee: Oh, my, is that a Fantastic Four movie I see over there? Quickly, to the cameo mobile, away!
  • Thor: Well, that was awkward.
  • Loki: I hate you so much.

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#69758: May 3rd 2017 at 2:55:14 PM

And then there's a high-speed chase with the Thanoscopter in hot pursuit of the Cameomobile while Yakkety Sax plays.

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#69759: May 3rd 2017 at 2:56:25 PM

A new Fantastic Four movie scares me more than anything Thanos could cook up.

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#69760: May 3rd 2017 at 2:56:36 PM

[up][up] GAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, I'm a sucker for "Yackety Sax" gags.

I wish we get the Thanoscopter in the Infinity War movies. I don't care how it looks, I just want to see Thanos fly around in a helicopter.

[up] What about a new X-Men movie? Particularly, X-Men 3: Remastered?

edited 3rd May '17 3:01:41 PM by fredhot16

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#69761: May 3rd 2017 at 3:00:33 PM

The X-Men movies are occasionally not-shitty.

The latest Fantastic Four was so bad that Stan Lee didn't even show up. Think about that.

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#69762: May 3rd 2017 at 3:04:07 PM

[up] Oh, he didn't? I didn't know because I DIDN'T WATCH IT! HAHA!

Man, dodged a fuckin' bullet there, didn't I?

...Was it really as bad as they say? I heard Doctor Doom was there, was he interesting or entertaining? I mean, how hard can it be to mess up DOCTOR DOOM?

Where'd he get his doctorate from anyway?

edited 3rd May '17 3:05:57 PM by fredhot16

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#69763: May 3rd 2017 at 3:05:19 PM

I don't know they still made horror films like .Fant4stic

edited 3rd May '17 3:05:46 PM by Ultimatum

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#69764: May 3rd 2017 at 3:05:50 PM

That's a terrible disservice to the horror genre.

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#69765: May 3rd 2017 at 3:06:34 PM

[up][up] Yeah! You owe the Silent Hill and Resident Evil movie series an apology!

They deserve better then being compared to Fant4stic! Like being hanged or getting syphilis or being forced to watch the Resident Evil movie series!

edited 3rd May '17 3:07:40 PM by fredhot16

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#69766: May 3rd 2017 at 3:07:19 PM

I owe them nothing

edited 3rd May '17 3:07:30 PM by Ultimatum

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#69767: May 3rd 2017 at 3:10:06 PM

I mean, how hard can it be to mess up DOCTOR DOOM?

Three movie attempts later and nothing that comes close to his usual memorability says it's pretty damn easy to screw him up, apparently.

I don't even think the word "Latveria" has ever even been spoken in any of them.

edited 3rd May '17 3:11:46 PM by LordVatek

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#69768: May 3rd 2017 at 3:14:28 PM

I think he got literally shipped back there at the end of one of them.

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#69769: May 3rd 2017 at 3:15:21 PM

At least none of them, to my knowledge, followed suit on the Ultimate comics and tried to "fix" the character by renaming him "Victor van Damme". God, that was stupid.

Doom gets so much crap for his name, but y'know what? It makes perfect sense. He's Doctor Doom because his full name is Dr. Victor von Doom, PHD. Yes, he gave himself that PHD out of spite in his own country, but it's still the reason he's Dr. Doom. Because it's his actual name.

Having him change his name to Dr. Doom to sound menacing and scary doesn't fix the character. It makes him stupider, because it makes the ridiculous name Dr. Doom into a conscious choice on the part of the character.

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#69770: May 3rd 2017 at 3:18:36 PM

[up] Though having the name "Victor of Doom" is...rather melodramatic-

Wait.

He GAVE himself that PHD?

Well, we know who's the smarter of the two now. At least Reeds EARNED his PHD, he didn't just award it to himself!

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#69771: May 3rd 2017 at 3:19:11 PM

"Isn't Doom kind of a weird last name?"
"I'll have you not mock the names of my culture. Besides, glass houses, Captain. Do you know what 'Rogers' can mean in the UK?"

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#69772: May 3rd 2017 at 3:19:22 PM

He's an Magitek Emperor Scientist James Bond villain and ham aficionado in a suit of armour. He's everything people love about megalomaniacal comic book and sci-fi villains. I don't know why studios keep thinking what people want out of the character is a more down-to-Earth take.

[up] Every word in the English language has been used as vulgar slang term in the UK at some point in history, fact. You can thank Shakespeare for that.

edited 3rd May '17 3:27:56 PM by Unsung

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#69773: May 3rd 2017 at 3:21:11 PM

Good point.

My general gist though is that his name sounds goofy in English but his name is not English.

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#69774: May 3rd 2017 at 3:23:03 PM

[up][up] That too.

Yes, Dr. Doom is a silly name, but he f*cking owns it. He's a hammy master of both science and magic, one of the smartest people on Earth, and easily one of the most theatrical. If Tony Stark and Dr. Strange had a love-child and that child was raised by M.O.D.O.K., Doom would personally stop by Kamala's house and tell her to stop writing terrible fanfiction, and he would spend hours doing it in Shakespearean prose.

edited 3rd May '17 3:23:17 PM by TobiasDrake

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#69775: May 3rd 2017 at 3:23:48 PM

[up] "And it'd be just as bad" is what I'm hearing.

Edit: Apparently, my ears are going defective.

edited 3rd May '17 4:30:05 PM by fredhot16

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