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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69701: May 3rd 2017 at 12:39:52 AM

I guess if your expectations are low, the second half is not that bad...but then, I was in the "not THAT bad" camp originally, too, but this part of the Netflix shows gets only worse with every rewatch.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#69702: May 3rd 2017 at 2:26:11 AM

Matt chose to protect New York of his own volition and out of no greater desire than "I want to help my city."

If your idea of helping your city involves going out at night to illegally wallop people while leaving your partner to handle all the legal work that actually does do good, I have to question if your intent is really all that altruistic. Luke also has the excuse of being a man on the run trying to stay low.

edited 3rd May '17 2:27:34 AM by windleopard

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69703: May 3rd 2017 at 3:40:14 AM

A totally other and kind of random thought: I really like that the MCU is making an effort to spread out a little bit. I mean, we still have a number of heroes living in New York, but let's be honest here, Spiderman, Daredevil and Luke cage have to be there, so Jessica Jones and Iron Fist have also be there for the team up. But Tony was living in Malibu (I think), Steve briefly in Washington and now we got Ghost Rider in LA and Cloak and Dagger in New Orleans (did they mention where New Warriors will be set?).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#69705: May 3rd 2017 at 6:19:57 AM

[up] Agh, I was just about to post that! [nja]

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#69706: May 3rd 2017 at 6:28:14 AM

Needs more Daughters of the Dragon, 0/10.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#69707: May 3rd 2017 at 6:54:16 AM

Oh goodie, I was afraid we wouldn't have more pointless first meetings between heroes that results in a fight because of a misunderstanding.

But it really is a great trailer though. What's the name of the song?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#69708: May 3rd 2017 at 6:55:09 AM

"Come As You Are" by the grungiest of grunge bands, Nirvana.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#69709: May 3rd 2017 at 7:07:16 AM

Awesome trailer. It does actually seem like Clare Temple is going to be the one to bring the team together and reports to the contrary weren't entirely correct. It's pretty clear she's the one making at least some of the introductions. In addition to what was explicitly shown, she's probably the one who tips off Matt about Jessica's legal troubles.

[up][up][up] Collen Wing is at 1:35 for a moment. But I'm definitely hoping that her and Misty Knight cross paths in the Defenders.

edited 3rd May '17 7:07:29 AM by Falrinn

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#69710: May 3rd 2017 at 7:17:09 AM

[up]x3 It wouldn't really be Marvel without Let's You and Him Fight.

Make mine Marvel.
eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#69711: May 3rd 2017 at 7:18:36 AM

Loved Luke's reaction to the "I'm the immortal Iron Fist" line. Hope it's becomes a running gag with the others defenders.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#69712: May 3rd 2017 at 7:21:08 AM

I like the flip of the punch from Luke Cage.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#69713: May 3rd 2017 at 7:58:34 AM

Runaways first teaser.

edited 3rd May '17 8:00:20 AM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#69714: May 3rd 2017 at 8:15:56 AM

Hype get

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#69715: May 3rd 2017 at 11:30:54 AM

@Alliterator

Nah, Mudhoney is way more grunge than Nirvana.

Still a great trailer that's giving me so much hype right now. I'll try and binge some of Iron Fist today if I can.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69716: May 3rd 2017 at 12:24:09 PM

Don't be turned off if the first few episodes don't suit your taste. It has a bit of the opposite problem the other shows have, where the first few episodes are awkwardly paced but the rest is great.

And holy shit, that trailer is everything I hoped Defenders would be.

"We make a great team."

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#69717: May 3rd 2017 at 12:58:16 PM

[up][up] Give Iron Fist a little bit time...it has its problems, but it is worth for the characters.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#69718: May 3rd 2017 at 1:02:52 PM

I hope literally everyone in Defenders' reaction to Danny, who is straight-up magical, is just "What the fuck?"

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#69719: May 3rd 2017 at 1:09:48 PM

I'm in the middle of the first episode, and I'm going so back and forth in regards to Danny's character. One the one hand, he's naive and kinda emotionally stunted to where it's kind of adorable, but on the other hand, he also breaks into Joy's house and kinda-sorta kidnaps Ward by stealing his car. I did like how emotional he got towards Ward in the car scene, but Jesus Christ, I keep going back and forth on kinda liking him to kinda hating him. His whole spiel in the car scene about how people were treating him with "nothing but hostility" really rubbed me the wrong way.

I know Ward is supposed to get a lot of character development later on in the series, but right now he just feels like a huge douchebag who I desperately want to punch in the teeth.

The fight scenes are...eh, I guess? Some obvious stunt doubles and Finn Jones looks kinda bored in some of the fights. As far as his acting goes, he's alright, I guess.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#69720: May 3rd 2017 at 1:11:27 PM

They need to change Ward's name. We already have a Ward.

edited 3rd May '17 1:12:10 PM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#69721: May 3rd 2017 at 1:12:11 PM

I'm just gonna tell you right now, don't expect much out of Finn's martial arts.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#69722: May 3rd 2017 at 1:12:44 PM

Well, now. This is a good day. Jess meets Misty, Matt's back in court, scenes of Luke in prison, Claire getting the team together... Auspicious beginning. And Runaways! The kids look like the kids, right down to Molly's hat.

Iron F Ist gets off to a series of false starts. Almost nothing happens in the first five episodes. It gets better, but it's slow going throughout, even after the mid-season uptick. Danny never really solidifies, but character development helps the Meachums, and you are absolutely supposed to hate Ward.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#69723: May 3rd 2017 at 1:14:09 PM

Ward being super-punchable right now makes the payoff of him finally turning his life around better.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#69724: May 3rd 2017 at 1:15:58 PM

While I do think Danny is kind of a dick in the beginning, I find it understandable. The man lost both of his parents and spent his childhood being turned into a Tyke-Bomb so when he finally gets a chance to reclaim his birthright he's repeatedly humiliated and spit upon. Anyone would reach their Rage Breaking Point.

He even tries talking normally with Ward (mild kidnapping aside), but then Ward pulls a pistol on him.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#69725: May 3rd 2017 at 1:16:03 PM

OK, Harold Meachum just showed up and I fucking love him already. He's smug, confident, snarky, scheming, intelligent, I just love it.

[up]

I do kind of agree with that, but I still feel a bit annoyed at how Danny comes off a bit bratty. At the same time, I understand why he's like that and sympathize a bit. It's conflicting.

edited 3rd May '17 1:17:23 PM by AdricDePsycho

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