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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I don't think that'll happen. I think they may set up legacy characters, but I don't think they would kill them off, if only because that would preclude them from having any cameos in later films (unless they did the whole "Peggy Carter" thing and had cameos via flashbacks).
I would love a Black Widow movie for Phase 4 or whatever they call it.
I, too, would enjoy that a lot. Especially if they included alcoholism as part of the reason he's retiring — I keep wanting to see more of a "Demon in a Bottle" story for Tony. I know there was a reason they didn't do it in Iron Man 2, but it was a stupid reason (something like "stories about alcoholism are too adult" or something).
I reject the notion that a character's story must end with their death. I second the idea that Tony retires (maybe he gets cripple fighting Thanos).
This song needs more love.Huh. You know, I actually figured out a good storyline for Tony to pass the mantle on to Riri: Armor Wars. Tony learns that the designs to all of his suits have somehow been leaked and goes on a cross country rampage finding and stopping everyone who is building their own Iron Man suits. When he finds 15-year-old Riri, he sees a lot of himself in her, so takes her under his wing as they both fight against, like, the Titanium Man, the Mandroids, the Ghost, and the final villain, Ezekiel Stane.
I've pitched a movie introducing Riri before in this thread. It emphasised the parallels between her as Iron Man's Legacy Character and Ezekiel as Stane's son who's very similar to a young Tony Stark.
I want them to turn the scene from the Death of Captain America around, with Tony lying on the slab and Cap putting his shield on him as a gesture of respect. I mean, I will bawl my eyes out, but it feels so right. And then they should do a "Death of Superman" scene, in which Tony is carried to his grave with all the heroes and as many characters as possible following in a massive funeral.
"I'm sorry, you, guy in the devil costume. Did... You know Tony?"
"By reputation. But I'm not missing this cameo opportunity"
edited 23rd Apr '17 7:49:51 AM by Bocaj
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Really? That is great news. He did some of the best episodes of Ao S.
I mean, I'd also prefer it if Kevin Tancharoen had a lot more influence on Inhumans than just directing, too, because then we might actually get a real crossover between that show and Agents of SHIELD, but this works out fine, too. I'm just hoping that we get at least a cameo by Daisy at some point.
I don't want Tony to retire or die. I strongly disagree with the logic that he's easy to retire; f*ck, he's already retired twice and that lasted about five seconds both times. It's been firmly established that not only are the Avengers and Iron Man more important to Tony than his own company, they're more important to him than Pepper too. They're his legacy. His direction in life. Instead of making weapons for the army, now he makes Avengers for Earth.
Tony might be a Knight in Sour Armor but he'll be an Avenger until it kills him. For their part, the Avengers need him. They need his ideas, they need his designs, they need his money. They don't really exist without him.
A lot of the same can be said about Steve, which is the entire point of dramatically splitting them in half like the comics like to do and the movies just did: because the Avengers are always weaker without their two cornerstones. I highly doubt they're going to climactically come back together for Infinity War just to be like, "Well, that was cool. Anyways, I'm sure you guys can handle just fine without me. See ya!"
Instead, a fitting conclusion for Steve and Tony is to kick them upstairs. Make the Avengers into the new S.H.I.E.L.D., so to speak. Have future movies revolve around the new members. Mention them in passing from time to time, like, "Director Stark wants us in Bucharest to deal with this alien crash that just happened. Director Rogers sent us these orders on first contact protocol."
edited 23rd Apr '17 1:57:42 PM by TobiasDrake
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Maybe Steve and Tony will heroic sacrifice themselves to stop the Threat. Like in the What If? Annihilation War what if issue about annihilation war interrupting Civil War.
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