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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#68826: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:11:52 AM

I just dislike the idea of a Judas Bullet. The entire premise of the show is that you have a bulletproof man. So how do you defeat him? By a stronger type of bullet.

That's just lazy.

I always thought Cottonmouth's best chance would be to put on a gas mask, pulling out a grenade launcher and firing at Luke a smoke bomb, then watching as he gets dazed from the smoke. Then attack him with electric weaponry as he is dazed.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#68827: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:15:35 AM

[up][up][up]I'm not saying those traps can't work, just that I can see why they didn't try them. Outfitting enough guys to keep Luke in the gas long enough to knock him out, or in range of the shock prods or whatever, that takes money and manpower that Cottonmouth lacks by the time he's actively considering those kinds of measures. Luke doesn't have to fight off an army of mooks, he just has to get away from them. The guy punched through a van and a brick wall when they were trying to get away with Scarfe. It's a big outlay for something that's not a sure thing.

And the reason Diamondback didn't try those measures is because he doesn't just want Luke dead, he wants him to suffer.

edited 17th Apr '17 9:16:51 AM by Unsung

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#68828: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:20:20 AM

Cottonmouth is a gun smuggler. If anyone ought to have this kind of weaponry it's him. If he's too poor to afford it then just don't write it that way.

I don't really find it all that plausible that Cottonmouth, the guy who gets triple A-musical artists to perform private performances exclusively for his own amusement, runs a highly successful gun smuggling operation and Harlem's most wealthy nightclub (and has a sister whose political influence runs reasonably deep) doesn't have enough money for some pretty basic shock troop equipment.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Cross (Don’t ask)
#68829: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:24:57 AM

A lot of his money got taken away because of Luke and Shades was plotblocking him.

edited 17th Apr '17 9:26:54 AM by Cross

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#68830: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:27:29 AM

He's pretty broke by that point, and he already knows a rocket that demolishes a whole building won't kill Luke. He doesn't make the right choice, but he doesn't have all the facts, and I can see why he pins his hopes on some kind of magic explosive bullet. It's not that he can't afford gas masks and gas, or shock prods or whatever, but if they don't work, he's not only out of pocket, he's also probably out a whole bunch of men to boot. He doesn't have a lot of manpower left, either— and with a ton of police heat on him, it'd be that much harder and more expensive to bring in more.

edited 17th Apr '17 9:29:34 AM by Unsung

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#68831: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:56:59 AM

Besides, doesn't he have a Healing Factor? I doubt poison would've worked.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#68832: Apr 17th 2017 at 11:22:04 AM

[up] Yes, but it's a mild healing factor, so a strong dose of a fast-acting posion could probably overwhelm it without too much difficulty.

edited 17th Apr '17 11:22:24 AM by Falrinn

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#68834: Apr 17th 2017 at 2:13:24 PM

I really love that he breaks his own scoops!!!! James Gunn rocks!!!

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#68835: Apr 17th 2017 at 4:05:21 PM

Finally, a trilogy all with the same director!!!

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#68837: Apr 17th 2017 at 4:22:08 PM

[up][up] Well, we already got one with the same set of writers, which might be even better....but then, James Gunn is very involved in the writing process so...yeah!!!!!

[up] Interesting.....

edited 17th Apr '17 4:24:31 PM by Swanpride

123tbones Since: Aug, 2015
#68838: Apr 17th 2017 at 4:38:15 PM

[up] It's just that it's interesting seeing how the Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor trilogies don't have all their movies share the same director.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#68839: Apr 17th 2017 at 8:21:10 PM

Are we going to get a Fandom Nod where Peter mistakes Starhawk for his dad before finding out it was Ego?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#68841: Apr 18th 2017 at 6:34:58 AM

I wonder if, by the time Vol. 3 gets into production, Marvel will have finally gotten the movie rights to Annihilus...

Also, Vol. 2 will have FIVE post-credits scenes.

edited 18th Apr '17 6:35:14 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#68842: Apr 18th 2017 at 6:56:12 AM

This sounds like JG intends to deliberately overdo it as a joke.

Btw, shouldn't the first reviews drop soon? the movie will be released in two weeks in a lot of countries.

edited 18th Apr '17 6:59:50 AM by Swanpride

KingNomarch Since: Oct, 2015
#68843: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:34:04 AM

Black Panther footage description[1]

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#68845: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:37:57 AM

Edit

edited 18th Apr '17 9:39:15 AM by comicwriter

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#68846: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:40:06 AM

Cool. From from io9, regarding a sneak peak of all the upcoming MCU films. Semi- [nja]

And related to the above, an article related to a seemingly incorrect detail in the io9 description (but actually correct apparently) about the Shocker in Homecoming.

Spoilers obviously in both, but about the Shocker specifically, apparently they are going for a decomposite/composite character thing, as Bokeen Woodbine is Herman Schulz and Logan Marshall Green is Montana, who was a composite with the Shocker in the Spectacular show. Seems like a cool choice because they are both good characters, but pretty different. Shultz is generally an ineffectual sympathetic villain and is popular out of universe for the same reasons he usually suffers in-universe. Conversely, Montana in Spectacular was quite competent and sort of along the lines of the MCU version of Crossbones, had an amusingly arrogant personality.

edited 18th Apr '17 9:45:00 AM by Hodor2

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#68847: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:44:04 AM

Groot is totally a Cactuar there. Nice.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#68848: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:47:06 AM

[up][up]per that article Taika Waititi is playing Korg. Awsome.

Sounds like Captaib Marvel is fighting Kree Sentries.

Nakia and Okoye sound awesome.

edited 18th Apr '17 9:48:21 AM by comicwriter

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#68849: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:55:33 AM

My god they toned down the yellow lines on Carol's costume.

Confirmed grimdark.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#68850: Apr 18th 2017 at 9:58:00 AM

I'm sure someone's going to get upset about that, but it looks more like they're just reflecting something bright to me.


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