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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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I'm not saying those traps can't work, just that I can see why they didn't try them. Outfitting enough guys to keep Luke in the gas long enough to knock him out, or in range of the shock prods or whatever, that takes money and manpower that Cottonmouth lacks by the time he's actively considering those kinds of measures. Luke doesn't have to fight off an army of mooks, he just has to get away from them. The guy punched through a van and a brick wall when they were trying to get away with Scarfe. It's a big outlay for something that's not a sure thing.
And the reason Diamondback didn't try those measures is because he doesn't just want Luke dead, he wants him to suffer.
edited 17th Apr '17 9:16:51 AM by Unsung
Cottonmouth is a gun smuggler. If anyone ought to have this kind of weaponry it's him. If he's too poor to afford it then just don't write it that way.
I don't really find it all that plausible that Cottonmouth, the guy who gets triple A-musical artists to perform private performances exclusively for his own amusement, runs a highly successful gun smuggling operation and Harlem's most wealthy nightclub (and has a sister whose political influence runs reasonably deep) doesn't have enough money for some pretty basic shock troop equipment.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."He's pretty broke by that point, and he already knows a rocket that demolishes a whole building won't kill Luke. He doesn't make the right choice, but he doesn't have all the facts, and I can see why he pins his hopes on some kind of magic explosive bullet. It's not that he can't afford gas masks and gas, or shock prods or whatever, but if they don't work, he's not only out of pocket, he's also probably out a whole bunch of men to boot. He doesn't have a lot of manpower left, either— and with a ton of police heat on him, it'd be that much harder and more expensive to bring in more.
edited 17th Apr '17 9:29:34 AM by Unsung
Besides, doesn't he have a Healing Factor? I doubt poison would've worked.
Are we going to get a Fandom Nod where Peter mistakes Starhawk for his dad before finding out it was Ego?
I wonder if, by the time Vol. 3 gets into production, Marvel will have finally gotten the movie rights to Annihilus...
Also, Vol. 2 will have FIVE post-credits scenes.
edited 18th Apr '17 6:35:14 AM by TargetmasterJoe
MCU Bombshell time!
- Anyone else suddenly craving that Rocket Raccoon?
- First Black Panther footage!
- First look at Captain Marvel!
- Major Planet Hulk character coming to Thor Ragnarok...and he's played by Taika himself!
- Kevin Feige on Thanos being Cable.
- First deets regarding new costumes for Ant-Man and the Wasp!
- Connections between not just Civil War, but also Age of Ultron in Spider-Man: Homecoming!
Cool. From from io9, regarding a sneak peak of all the upcoming MCU films
. Semi-
And related to the above, an article
related to a seemingly incorrect detail in the io9 description (but actually correct apparently) about the Shocker in Homecoming.
Spoilers obviously in both, but about the Shocker specifically, apparently they are going for a decomposite/composite character thing, as Bokeen Woodbine is Herman Schulz and Logan Marshall Green is Montana, who was a composite with the Shocker in the Spectacular show. Seems like a cool choice because they are both good characters, but pretty different. Shultz is generally an ineffectual sympathetic villain and is popular out of universe for the same reasons he usually suffers in-universe. Conversely, Montana in Spectacular was quite competent and sort of along the lines of the MCU version of Crossbones, had an amusingly arrogant personality.
edited 18th Apr '17 9:45:00 AM by Hodor2
My god they toned down the yellow lines on Carol's costume.
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!

I just dislike the idea of a Judas Bullet. The entire premise of the show is that you have a bulletproof man. So how do you defeat him? By a stronger type of bullet.
That's just lazy.
I always thought Cottonmouth's best chance would be to put on a gas mask, pulling out a grenade launcher and firing at Luke a smoke bomb, then watching as he gets dazed from the smoke. Then attack him with electric weaponry as he is dazed.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."