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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
If they want to go with making it more like Guardians Of The Galaxy than Thor The Dark World or Civil War I'm all for it.
edited 10th Apr '17 3:28:53 PM by stingerbrg
<Suddenly feels the eyes of the entire internet on him>
OH SHIT! WHAT'S THAT BEHIND YOU!?
<Flees>
One Strip! One Strip!Hmm, asking a movie to take it's premise seriously ends with being accused of wanting it grimdark (whatever that means), sounds about right.
I am surprised, the trailer did imply Ragnarok happens early whereas earlier reports suggested Thor is racing to stop it from happening. If the bulk of the movie is the gladiator fights then the subtitle would be off. Still, the laser title implies the games will be most of the movie. I am more interested in an After the End premise than just another Save The World concept.
I'll confess that I was expecting something grimmer as well, but I think as soon as we saw Jeff Goldblum as the Grandmaster, it was clear that it would at least have some campiness.
And I'm okay with that. Hel, I'm thrilled.
edited 10th Apr '17 3:44:40 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!I'll admit, I struggle with the MCU films and a number of other blockbusters because I feel the humor they use tends to deflate tension and make the movie rather more vapid than it needs to be. Instead of wondering how the hero is going to get out of the situation they seem to be having fun, and the action just becomes cool people doing cool things. As hilarious as "Puny God" was, it stopped the movie dead. "We know each other through work" is similar (at least as far as the trailer is concerned). When used well, humor can add to the tension and drama, such as Strange's "I have come to bargain" or Batman saying "Oh shit" when face to face with Doomsday.
The only MCU movies I feel have a serious problem with that are the Avengers ones - especially Age of Ultron - and as such they're something I tend to associate more with Whedon.
Most of the rest of them do a good job having the humor and the tone work hand in hand. The Iron Man movies are extremely comedic yet one of the few things every movie in that series does right is having the humor inform Tony's fragile and insincere mental state. And Ant-Man works perfectly with the humor, because it's intended to be a lighthearted madcap heist movie in the first place - imo, the sudden veering into a dramatic battle against a psychotic supervillain at the very end worked against it.
edited 10th Apr '17 4:16:39 PM by KnownUnknown
It can hypothetically be a problem
One of the things people say about Tom Baker's the Doctor Who is that his larger than life stage presence and quipping made him come off as invincible
Then again that made moments where he fought someone excessively dangerous like Sutek and seemed cowed even more frightening
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Well, as close as you can get to a dramatic battle with a giant Thomas the Tank Engine model.
It might have been a licensing issue, I imagine it's not exactly cheap
edited 10th Apr '17 4:21:15 PM by Pseudopartition
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I think the first movie had a better balance of humor vs. seriousness than the sequel. One of my major problems was making Ultron into a jokester made it extremely hard for me to take him seriously. A funny villain can still be menacing but I feel they leaned too hard on the "funny" side that time.
I would be interested to see how Hela is characterized. I could see dry humor working in doses.
Ultron's snideness didn't really mesh very well with some of the 'too young to know better' notes that kept coming up. It could've, maybe, but it didn't.
Similarly, making Doctor Strange an acid-tongued bully prior to his accident could have worked, but his ongoing snark and playfulness never really coalesced into what felt like a fully-formed character for me.
Whereas Chris Hemsworth seems a lot more complete playing Thor as a big lovable lug as opposed to earnest future king of his previous two movies, or the more, I dunno, jockish persona of the two Avengers movies.
The problem wasn't that Ultron was a jokester, the problem was that he himself was a joke. I would have been fine with him being a wisecracker (as it makes him a good foil to Tony), as long as the movie gave him adequate gravitas to carry the film itself. The end result we actually got was a mess.
The movie repeatedly goes well out of its way to neuter moments where he is a threat, generally by making humor out of his attempts to succeed and emphasizing the heroes as being awesome all the way through, thus setting the tone early on that he has no real chance of winning and continuing to do so even while the final battle is going on.
He never gains ground whenever he actually faces the heroes, the plot says' rather than shows that he has power and influence, and heck, even given that they spend part of it sulking off the grid, the movie doesn't even really have a Darkest Hour in the real sense. None of the worse things he does - mind controlling Banner, kidnapping Widow, killing Quicksilver - put the Avengers any further from stopping Ultron from doing what he's doing, and he's one of those villains that's actually defeated well before the heroes actually put that final nail in the coffin.
He at least doesn't have it worse than HYDRA. Age of Ultron clearly didn't take them seriously as an antagonistic force at all. Strucker comes off as a total loser.
edited 10th Apr '17 4:34:55 PM by KnownUnknown
HYDRA is particularly bizarre because the post-credits scene of Winter Soldier implied Strucker to be a Magnificent Bastard mastermind. It creates quite the whiplash when you go to Age of Ultron and he's a joke.
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What the hell is an Elliot Randolph? Also if I were you I wouldn't pay so much attention to the power level stuff. I get that it interests you but I think you read a little too much into it.
The best review I read of AOU opened with saying "It's very Joss Whedon-y and whether you like that or not is gonna determine how much you like the movie."
edited 10th Apr '17 4:53:31 PM by comicwriter

edited 10th Apr '17 3:26:55 PM by Unsung