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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67651: Mar 25th 2017 at 1:55:59 AM

I could forgive the Hand in the first season, because that one had to juggle multiple fractions - the Russians, the Corporate Criminal, the Chinese, the Japanese and Fisk himself - so that I could kind of understand why Fisk, the Russians, Owsley and to a certain degree Gao got characterisation while the Nobu was just there to look threatening and mysterious. But that excuse went right of the window in the second season. Not only didn't that one manage to give the other gangs the same careful characterizations (the Irish were painfully stereotypical, as were the biker gang which had more presence in Agents of Shield as mindless slaves and hey, there are hanging Mexicans from flesh hooks!!!!), for all the scenes devoted to explaining the Hand, they explained next to nothing. The show was more concerned with convincing the audience that coming back to live is a realistic option (they failed, btw...just because the Bible says that Jesus did it, it doesn't mean that I buy into a cult in which that is a regular occurrence) than simply laying down some ground rules and trusting the audience to roll with it. That is something Iron Fist does way better, btw. Half of the stuff connected to Gao or the Hand is batshit crazy, but hey, we have a hero with a glowing fist, so why not?

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#67653: Mar 25th 2017 at 6:18:40 AM

That one's pretty good too. Way better than the one of him hanging on Avengers tower. The idea of Spider-Man hitchhiking on the freeway once again really sells the idea of him as the everyman.

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#67655: Mar 25th 2017 at 6:51:12 AM

Obviously, he's playing Mary-Jane Watson.

They can't announce it because it's supposed to be a surprise.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67656: Mar 25th 2017 at 6:57:45 AM

I liked the idea of the third one, but the execution is somehow off...the first is still the best by a long shot.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#67658: Mar 25th 2017 at 11:01:40 AM

Spider Man the New Yorker is a lot more notable than just him on the building, even if Avengers Tower is in the background.

...Still want a Daredevil cameo.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#67659: Mar 25th 2017 at 11:30:09 AM

Cameo would be great, but I'd settle for even just a mention in passing of the Devil of Hell's Kitchen and Harlem's Bulletproof Man.

Spider-Man posing for photo ops seems like a very in-character thing to do.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#67661: Mar 25th 2017 at 6:57:59 PM

Is there actually a Marvel character named Dick Rider?

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#67662: Mar 25th 2017 at 6:59:00 PM

Yeah, original Nova Richard Rider.

With Dick being a common nickname for Richard.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#67663: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:03:53 PM

Nobody calls him Dick, though, they call him Rich.

...at least I hope that nobody called him Dick Rider.

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#67664: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:08:04 PM

I call him that all the time.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#67665: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:13:58 PM

I'm surprised nobody calls him that more often, to be honest.

Unless there's an AU where he becomes a porn star.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67666: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:17:42 PM

I don't think anyone ever actually called him that but there is an issue where Spider-Man alludes to it while talking to Rich's successor. He mentions the name Richard Rider and says "There's a joke in there if you think on it."

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#67667: Mar 25th 2017 at 10:07:53 PM

Maybe he's playing Mar-Vell.

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#67669: Mar 26th 2017 at 6:59:50 AM

There was a remote, Thor

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67670: Mar 26th 2017 at 9:05:19 AM

NVM

edited 26th Mar '17 11:29:50 AM by comicwriter

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67671: Mar 26th 2017 at 11:42:13 AM

Inhumans drops September 1 and first look at logo.

edited 26th Mar '17 3:51:07 PM by comicwriter

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#67672: Mar 26th 2017 at 3:40:02 PM

This might start something, but I can't resist posting.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#67673: Mar 26th 2017 at 3:52:47 PM

[up]Great. Now you and 123tbones have to beat the shit out of one another.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#67674: Mar 26th 2017 at 3:56:33 PM

OK, finally continuing Season 2 of Daredevil. This court stuff with Frank Castle's trial is great, but it's making me dread the rest.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#67675: Mar 26th 2017 at 4:54:59 PM

It's more of a letdown than overtly awful. The Hand are boring, but the stuff you're liking about the Punisher, Foggy, and Karen continues to hold up pretty well throughout.


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