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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#67626: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:33:26 AM

... Go on

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#67627: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:37:26 AM

-grabs popcorn-

This is interesting. Go on, Drake.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#67628: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:37:27 AM

[up][up] [up] yeah I'd really like to know what Angie's goal was here. Or how sh got frozen while auditioning for a musical

edited 24th Mar '17 9:41:14 AM by windleopard

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#67629: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:18:33 AM

Jesus Christ, Charlie Cox gets a lot of shirtless scenes in season two of Daredevil.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#67631: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:32:22 AM

Or how sh got frozen while auditioning for a musical

Haven't you ever heard of a cold reading?

edited 24th Mar '17 10:32:33 AM by KnownUnknown

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#67632: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:42:38 AM

I mean, I'm fine with the occasional female gaze, but hot damn is Charlie Cox a handsome man. I think I've got a bit of a crush on him now.

Also, I'm starting to understand the dissonance now in the season. The stuff with Frank Castle? Awesome, his interactions with Karen are great and Foggy doing shit as a lawyer is fun. The stuff with Elektra and Matt gallivanting off to mess with the "Yakuza" who I know are gonna turn out to be The Hand? Kind of boring. I'm not as invested in it, and they've already shown the only white guy in the Hand, so...yeah, I'm gonna be fucking angry by the end of this. They had a good opportunity to show both Frank Castle and Elektra as dark mirrors into Daredevil's character, and I am not looking forward to when they inevitably go into full on yellow peril mode.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#67633: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:54:13 AM

[up][up] go to your room and think about what you've done.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#67634: Mar 24th 2017 at 11:02:21 AM

It would've been better if they updated the Hand to be more like the Yakuza, and held onto that for a bigger part of the season. That one fight scene in the apartment with the bleached-blonde assassins? The sleeker, glossier production of episodes five and six, as a contrast to the gritty, bloody warzone look we had for the Punisher, Kitchen Irish, and the Dogs of Hell? That could've been pretty great. They just didn't push it far enough.

Instead they went full ninja, black-clad hordes with throwing stars, in 2017. Maybe if they could've gotten a hundred guys who were all actually trained martial artists to participate in those fights, maybe if they choreographed a few sweet multi-person parkour sequences, maybe that could have redeemed it, but since they were just a faceless horde of stormtroopers who couldn't do anything but charge at Daredevil with their swords in the air using the Stock Ninja Run, it just feels thrown-together, tossed off and out of place.

edited 24th Mar '17 12:31:10 PM by Unsung

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#67636: Mar 24th 2017 at 12:10:24 PM

I really like that for some reason.

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Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#67637: Mar 24th 2017 at 12:12:06 PM

Nice. Reinforces the hell out of his everyman status.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#67638: Mar 24th 2017 at 12:18:06 PM

Yeah, that's pretty sweet. I really like it.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67639: Mar 24th 2017 at 12:20:37 PM

Honestly, it wasn't even the ninjas which bothered me...I can roll with a LOT of stuff. What I disliked was the lack of clear rules (again, thank god for Iron Fist clarifying some of the basics) and clear goals. We have still a literally plot hole in the middle of New York city, with no explanation whatsoever what the point of the thing is. That thing alone makes Daredevil 2 my least fav of the Netflix seasons so far, no matter how strong it started.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67640: Mar 24th 2017 at 12:24:29 PM

Love, love, love that poster.

1. It is unusual, from the motive to the tilted angle. It just draws in attention. 2. I love the details, like the midtown high jacket and the Avengers tower in the background. 3. It is sooooo Spider-man.

Honestly, did they hire a new marketing team? For years they had those boring floating heads but now we suddenly get posters I actually would put on my wall if not for the fact that I have sworn to myself to not buy posters anymore.....

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#67641: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:09:24 PM

In a tragic yet kind of funny freak accident, Angie became frozen in a block of ice during rehearsal of Captain America: The Musical. She was discovered decades later by Tony Stark, who happened to be visiting the theater on a booty call, and later thawed out by S.H.I.E.L.D. She's since been enlisted and trained as a new agent, as well as given a new identity. She chose the name "Sharon Carter" in honor of her dearest friend.

Kevin Feige, hire this man!

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#67643: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:01:12 PM

That's much more generic. Spider-Man hanging off a building. God knows we've never seen that before.

It being Avengers tower is new, but that's not enough from saving it from just being more of the same.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#67644: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:37:23 PM

I really like the first poster. It looks very cool.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#67645: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:09:36 PM

First one is better by a long shot!

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#67646: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:10:40 PM

I'm not sure that I will see Homecoming but that's the best poster I've seen from Marvel since...ever? It has a lot of personality.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#67647: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:59:29 PM

To be fair to Season 2 Daredevil's Hand, there is more than just one white person in the group. Remember that high-ranking woman, who was escorting and yelling at the hostages in the truck?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#67648: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:12:21 PM

First one is way better. Actually kind of adorable.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#67649: Mar 24th 2017 at 10:19:28 PM

I do remember her. The Hand being mostly Asian isn't really the problem, though— being a bunch of faceless stereotypes is the sticking point. And honestly, the stereotyping actually bothers me less than them just being boring. There's a lack of characterization compared to the other gangs we've seen— they all play to stereotypes in some way, but if you're going to give over half a season to the Hand, you've got to understand that devoting hour after hour to slowly unspooling the mystery of the unspeaking ninja hordes just isn't a good fit for a series that thrives on strong characterization.

They could've at least made the fights with the Hand more visually interesting and inventive, but they're among the show's worst. Feels like they ran into some hard deadlines or something.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#67650: Mar 25th 2017 at 12:41:02 AM

I just randomly came across these bloopers from the first X-Men movie. The Spider-Man gag is like 100 times more funny today than when the movie was made.


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