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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Punisher could deal with him in two seconds if he knew ahead of time who Killgrave was and what he could do and sniped him from a distance.
Anyone could.
But if we're giving Punisher prior awareness of Killgrave, its only fair that Killgrave knows about the Punisher too.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersMind control innocent people into being pawns, patsies and meat shields.
Y'know, his typical MO.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersKilgrave isn't hard to deal with once you know who he is and what he can do. The only reason he remains a threat for so long is because Jessica refuses to kill him and contrived circumstances keep allowing him to escape whenever he's captured or cornered (one of the few things I disliked about the show).
One thing I really liked about Kilgrave was just how unambitious he is. He could do so much with his powerset but he's just content to stay off the radar and ruin people's lives. It made him feel a lot more real.
I also had a problem with that too. I felt like there were about 3 times the Kilgrave plot could've ended but it just kept getting dragged out. I also thought it would have been interesting to see if they could figure out a legal way to defeat him. Just killing him in the end made all the struggles before seem pointless when they just did the thing they had avoided doing all season.
edited 22nd Mar '17 9:47:27 AM by TommyFresh
One of my favorite things about Kilgrave is the way he lacks vision. He doesn't care about using his powers for anything bigger than comfort, hedonism and satisfying whatever selfish whims he has that day - exactly like a child who never grew up. Even when facing Jessica, he rarely takes full advantage of his anonymity or exerts the full pressure of his abilities - preferring to go after her in petty ways and with theatrical gestures.
If he wanted to, he could walk into Stark Industries and within a few easy commands probably end up in control of Tony and then the Avengers before anybody knew what was going on. Nobody knows who he is, and unlike the comics there's no visible indication that something's off about him. One quickly spoken command and no one's the wiser.
He could have been an extremely powerful threat, but instead he's dicking around a single neighborhood to torment and ruin the life of the one who got away. And that level of pettiness is really one of the best things about him.
The thing is, Jessica's trying to stop Kilgrave without getting anyone else hurt— specifically, hurt by her. One of my favourite scenes in the series is when they have him locked in the tank, and they just have no idea what to do, because with just one word, Kilgrave isn't just Kilgrave, he's everyone in the room, not least of all the superhumanly strong Jessica Jones. And Jessica is terrified, traumatized, by the idea of what he'd have her do if she ever got that close to him again.
Note that once Jessica realizes he can't control her anymore, he's just fucking gone. He knows how fucked he is, and he spends the rest of the season just trying to get back on top again. And I think he's actually careful to groom a certain anonymity— sure, he could control the most powerful people in the world— for eight hours at a time. Even he can't be anywhere at once, and what happens when they start sending armies and air strikes after you? Like, I kinda wonder if that's happened to him before, on any level. Maybe not air trikes, but bombs, people trying to run him down. Maybe that's why he takes getting hit by a bus so personally, heh.
It's very much in keeping with his narcissism to say that no, he just doesn't want that level of influence, doesn't care enough about the world outside himself to bother, and maybe to some extent that's true. But he's also cowardly enough and smart enough that the instant he's in any real danger, he'll bolt, and do absolutely anything to reclaim that power.
It's common enough villain behaviour, but not many series look at it so unflinchingly.
edited 22nd Mar '17 10:45:57 AM by Unsung
Related to that rumor about Hela being a Composite Character with Death in Infinity War, comic spoilers today:
Thanos/Hela now officially seems to be a thing, adding further fuel to that flame.
Hmm. I just realized something. Bear with me here:
The first one has a man get fed up with all the shit going on and deciding to do something about it. He dons a couple of battlesuits, ending with a sleek red one, and wages war against a large, bald, power-hungry man. Said man has associates belonging to a different, more mysterious organization based in a foreign country, but they're not the main focus for now.
The second one has our hero get super-strength thanks to a government experiment, and is treated like a monster. They just want to be left alone but are pursued by an obsessive man who believes they belong to him. The biggest physical threat our hero faces is a crazy soldier hopped up on strength-enhancing substances.
The third one is a sequel to the first one, with our hero getting into fights with his own friends and isolating himself. There's also a female assassin who gets introduced and will be important later. However, it spends so much time setting up the connected universe and future media that the villain (who happens to be armed with a dangerous weapon wielded like a whip) is woefully underdeveloped.
The fourth one stars a very strong, very durable hero not native to the main setting whose personal arc starts with him being banished like a criminal. They cannot escape that punishment until they acquire their powers. The whole plot turns out to be the machinations of the hero's own brother, clad in green and yellow, who is envious that he was never the apple of their father's eye the way the hero was. The brother is defeated and demoralized, but the ending implies he will return to wreak havoc once more.
The fifth one involves a blonde-haired, blue-eyed American man who is presumed dead when his plane crashes into snow and ice, but returns many years later alive. Also he goes from a scrawny little guy to a super soldier. His villain was granted amazing power, but became deranged by it.
These heroes all need to come together and become a team. Also there's a dude who has no superpowers but is an expert marksman, introduced earlier.
Now, am I talking about Phase 1 of the movies, or the Netflix shows thus far?
edited 22nd Mar '17 2:28:36 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!In the context of the Netflix shows, yeah, I meant Punisher.
While he might show up in The Defenders, I don't think he's gonna be a Defender, so the comparison is kinda weak there. But he does at least serve in an antagonistic role for most of Daredevil just like Hawkeye serves an (unwilling) antagonistic role for most of The Avengers.
Also it's kinda cheating to compare Vanko's whips to Nobu's kyoketsu shoge, but I couldn't resist.
edited 22nd Mar '17 2:31:30 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I'm sure they will introduce him either in the Defenders or Season 3 of Daredevil. He's the most iconic archenemy of the character, they won't miss this opportunity.
They likely wanted to introduce him in season 2 but the necessity to set-up Defenders with The Hand and the like got in the way.
Fun translation trivia: The Hand is called The Tentacle in Brazil, for reasons unknown, ever since the comics were first translated and they're still called that in the subtitles for the Netflix shows. Punisher is basically called "Justice-r", and Bullseye is called "Mercenary" (more often THE Mercenary). Daredevil is called Demolisher and Kingpin is called King of Crime.
So basically Brazil is a weird place.
In the first season of DD we see a hired gunman of Fisk's (in full SWAT-ish get-up so no face or identifiers) that sets up a sniper rifle and seems to have ace of spades (Bullseye's Calling Card) in his stuff. See here,
edited 22nd Mar '17 2:41:36 PM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
We run into that problem sometimes where we don't have an appropriate Woolseyism, we just make up something completely unrelated. You see it all the time with movie titles.
Oh, huh, interesting.
Whoever ends up playing Bullseye needs to have a damn good Irish accent. I can't see him as purely big bad material, but maybe as a high ranking dragon for Kingpin or something.
Also, still on Jessica Jones, wrapping up episode ten...Simpson is actually pretty interesting in his descent into obsession and insanity. But fucking hell, I don't care what anyone says, I despise Robin so much, and this episode just cemented it with her bullshit reasons for hating Jessica making it where Kilgrave escaped again.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Don't worry, you're not alone. Most people hate Robin. They definitely overplayed her as the obnoxious neighbor.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.That was the most enraging contrivance I noted when saying dumb coincidences allow Kilgrave to escape. Seriously, he looks nothing like her brother and she somehow thought Jessica had kidnapped Ruben? Is she just face-blind?
Spider-Man was marketed as "Die Spinne" ("The Spider") in Germany for a while. I guess it's a very literal language.
edited 22nd Mar '17 3:35:47 PM by comicwriter
Desperation makes fools of us all but especially Robin specifically.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThor: Ragnarok writer Chris Yost is working on a Silver Sable and Black Cat spinoff script[1]
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Punisher isn't immune to mind control powers. He'd be just as fucked.
You'd have better luck with Deadpool who also kills wantonly and tends to be portrayed with Power Born of Madness which gives him some immunity to psychic abilities.
edited 22nd Mar '17 9:23:27 AM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."