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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Zendaya isn't. The love interest in Homecoming is Liz Allen, played by Laura Harrier.
edited 8th Mar '17 7:37:56 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.I'm pretty sure Mary Jane is the love interest for Spider-Man. But if we're sticking to them pretending she's totally not Mary Jane no really we're not being suspicious you're being suspicious, you have Laura Harrier, who is also African American.
And yes, they did confirm about Lupita Nyong'o. Sidenote, did Black Panther have the all female bodyguards thing before Colonel Qaddafi did it? Cause if not, that seems really really bad. Hell, it seems bad anyway.
edited 8th Mar '17 7:40:47 PM by PincerMove
Is Valkyrie a love interest? I don't remember them confirming a romantic arc between them, but then I could have missed that infodump.
And, to add, there is no good reason to keep her being Mary Jane a secret (and the origin of the rumor is a less-than-credible online news site that basically made it up, one of those "I heard it in a bar" things), so let's not call Lying Creator on this.
edited 8th Mar '17 7:46:36 PM by KnownUnknown
None confirmed but ever since Valkyrie was even announced to be in the movie people were teasing that she would become a replacement love interest over Jane.
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Can I get a source for those teases? Not trying to put you on the spot, just curious.
It's just, "Valkyrie's replacing Jane as Thor's love interests" does also seem more likely to be something the fans are reading into than something the writers are actually stating.
edited 8th Mar '17 7:52:00 PM by KnownUnknown
I'd rather not just make assumptions about this - we have no hard evidence that she's playing Mary Jane (and if she was, why would they keep it a secret?).
Do you have a source for that? I believe the character she's playing was a villain in the comics.
They first appeared in 1998, so...I presume after?
Though I'm curious what this has to do with anything.
Oh God! Natural light!And the Arkham Knight is not Jason Todd, the characters of Lost are not in purgatory, Hunter Zoloman is not Zoom in Flash, Ned Stark is the main character of Game Of Thrones, Naomie Harris is not Moneypenny, Bucky is not in The Winter Soldier, Star Trek Into Darkness is not about Khan...
You do get that they are allowed to lie to you, right? When people correctly guess exactly what a writer intends, they don't just scrap the entire movie and start over from scratch, they lie to your face and tell you that you didn't get it right, in order that it still be a suprise.
I'd take Word of God over nonsensical rumors written by hack news sites any day.
edited 8th Mar '17 7:55:18 PM by KnownUnknown
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Alright, but what reliable evidence do you have that she's Mary Jane?
edited 8th Mar '17 7:53:27 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!Or, and I know this is crazy, she's a completely original character made for the movie.
This song needs more love.It helps that there's, again, no reason to lie. There's no twist value in her character turning out to be Mary Jane, because she's a character with a plot everybody knows already. It wouldn't add anything to the experience to not know who she is beforehand.
In fact, since MJ is a character the fans would already know it would actually be worse for hype to hide the fact that she's in the movie than it would be to simply state it - because with the politics surrounding MJ's removal in the comics her presence would charge up the fandom.
A studio having a character guaranteed to get a positive reaction from the paying public in the story and then refusing to advertise their presence in the film isn't a likely alternative to simply not having the character in the first place.
edited 8th Mar '17 8:00:13 PM by KnownUnknown
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In which case it makes even more sense to actually say so beforehand. If they're hiding it, that looks like they're trying to downplay and hide the fact that the love interest is black, which would itself look bad.
Which they're doing because...? You're saying a lot of "movie people lie, so of course they're lying now!" conclusion jumping, and not a lot of explaining why they would even bother doing so. Trust me, if there's anyone who always lies to the public for a calculated reason, it's the movie industry.
Good lies mean hype. Bad lies mean lost profit. Marvel knows the difference between them.
edited 8th Mar '17 8:06:04 PM by KnownUnknown
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And others will scream to high heaven about not being faithful to the material.
Then again we just had this problem. And while I could talk about black women are desexualized by fandoms, let's get some confirmation first.
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It's more "why hide she's Mary Jane unless you know it will infuriate people?"
edited 8th Mar '17 8:03:54 PM by Beatman1
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What I'm saying is that there's no plausible reason to not say "This actress is Mary Jane." Now it could theoretically be an in-universe twist which explains why they'd tell us she has a different name but what would be the in-universe reason for Mary Jane lying?
edit: I doubt we're getting a "Ben Kingsley isn't really the Mandarin" twist so why not just tell us upfront who she is?
edited 8th Mar '17 8:05:06 PM by Kostya

I believe Lupita Nyong'o is playing a villain in the movie? So presumably not a love interest.
No clue about Zendaya. There were those rumors about her playing Mary Jane, but it seems likely at this point that those were unfortunately bogus.
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